TESTED by FIRE !
The Lord Jesus Christ said, “I have come to cast FIRE upon the earth; and how I wish it were already kindled !” (Luke 12:49)
(v. 51) “Do you suppose that I came to grant peace on earth ? I tell you, NO, but rather division;” (v. 52) “for from now on five members in one household will be divided, three against two and two against three.”
“For everyone will be salted with FIRE.” (Mark 9:49)
“I advise you to buy from Me gold refined by FIRE so that you may become rich, and white garments so that you may clothe yourself, and that the shame of your nakedness will not be revealed; and eye salve to anoint your eyes so that you may see” (Revelation 3:18).
Jesus said, “He who is NOT for Me is against Me; and he who does NOT gather with Me, scatters” (Luke 11:23).
He who is NOT FOR ME, is AGAINST ME !
Jesus said, “and I say to you, everyone who confesses Me before men, the Son of Man will confess him also before the angels of God; but he who denies Me before men will be denied before the angels of God. (Luke 12:8-9)
The trinitarian MIDDLEMAN concept.
Trinitarians teach that God is THREE persons in one God.
The FIRST person is the Father, which is the head and the most important person of the THREE persons the trinity. He is called by ALL trinitarians Jehovah, and if they don’t like to associate with the Jehovah Witnesses, they call that god Yahweh.
He is the one who teaches his son to be like his father, and his son can do nothing apart from his father.
Trinitarians teach that Jehovah sent his only one son to die for the sins of the world
Then there is the MIDDLEMAN ! All trinitarians acknowledge the middleman. But to them, he is only the Son of the first person whom they call Jehovah or Yahweh.
He is the SECOND person (the middle person) in the concept of ‘GOD’ who MEDIATES between a god called Jehovah or Yahweh and mankind . In trinitarian theology he is called the MEDIATOR.
“For there is one God, and one mediator also between God and men, the man Christ Jesus” (1 Timothy 2:5).
The THIRD person in the concept ‘GOD’ (the trinity) is the Holy Spirit.
He is the third person whom Jehovah (the Father, the first person) will send to teach mankind and lead them into all the truth.
If that is not the epitome of all deception, then what is ?
Don’t you think that such a doctrine as the trinity should pass through the FIRE of rigorous testing, and the Lord Jesus Christ will burn up everything which is not true ?
Whatsoever is passed through the FIRE and remains is of God, “for our God is a consuming FIRE”. (Hebrew 12:29 and Deuteronomy 4:24).
Please test your doctrines, starting with the trinity doctrine and the duality of god.
As I have said before, the doctrine of God is the most important doctrine there is, if any man errs on that doctrine, all other doctrines will most likely be NOT of God and be burned up with fire.
1 Kings 18:24 Only the Lord God answers by FIRE and whatever is NOT of God will be burned up so that only the truth remains. And the truth is JESUS Christ of Nazareth (John 14:6).
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TESTED by FIRE !Posted by Paul G Thursday, June 29, 2017
After reading many creeds and belief statements
I decided to stick to my own
24 Comments:
Comments from previous post.
Brenda,
You don’t agree with the Word of God at all, you agree with what you THINK that it says, and with man made speculative nonsensical doctrines.
You always believe contrary to what the Scriptures said.
John 14:9 Jesus said, ‘He who has seen ME has seen the FATHER’, but you are saying that when you see Jesus, you are seeing someone else, another entity called Yahweh.
And when the Lord Jesus Christ said that He and the Father are ONE, you are saying that Jesus and the Father are TWO.
Well Brenda, blind Freddy can see that you do NOT believe a thing of the Scriptures, you are only saying that you believe.
Jehovah Witnesses, Mormons and every cult say that they believe the Scriptures, but do they ?
Just read the title of one of your own blogs, “Father I thank You for Jesus”.
Now tell me, which Father or god are you thanking for Jesus ?
And in one of your songs you said, “Thank you Lord for revealing the Father”.‘
It is obvious that the Lord Jesus Christ has NOT revealed the Father to you, otherwise you would believe in the Lord Jesus Christ and not in a false god called Yahweh.
Look Brenda, you need to repent of your false gods, or else you will perish with them.
You need to walk on the narrow road, for the broad road leads to destruction.
Comment from previous post.
Keith, you said, "Paul, It just shows your ignorance of the scriptures. Yahweh, Yah Ehyeh, Ehyeh Asher Ehyeh is what God said the Moshe when he asked what his name was. Why don't you believe what the scriptures say? Why do you keep misrepresenting the Word of God? I don't give the Lord another name. Y'shua, Jesus, means Yah Saves. You are being an ambassador of confusion, not Jesus"
Where is that written in the Bible Keith ?
Absolutely nowhere ! You have made that up, that is wild speculative nonsense to justify your unbelief in the Lord Jesus Christ.
You need to read the Bible and NOT the book of Alibaba and the forty thieves.
Apostate Israel did exactly the same as you are doing; and when the Lord God the Almighty Jesus Christ of Nazareth came in a body (1 Tim. 3:16) and stood in front of them, they said that He had a demon, being a man claiming to be God (John 10:33).
You are saying and doing the same as apostate Israel, and Brenda supports such a great deception.
Look my friend, you need to repent and believe in the Lord Jesus Christ and be saved from this evil, unbelieving and perverse generation.
You can not see Jesus in the flesh Paul, yet Jesus is speaking these words to all who the Father brings to Him, including us.
If you go on to the next 2 verses, v.10,11 of John ch. 14, Jesus continues by asking Philip:-
'Do you not believe that I am in the Father and the Father is in me? The words that I say to you I do not speak on my own authority, but the Father who dwells in me does his works. Believe me that I am in the Father and the Father is in me, or else believe on account of the works themselves.'
We are all one with God in Jesus, as Jesus Himself says, but that is in Spirit Paul, because God is Spirit and we can only be joined in spirit and become one. If we were joined in the flesh we would have many different heads, many different arms etc. being both male and female.
Jesus says that His words are spirit and life.
"Please test your doctrines, starting with the trinity doctrine and the duality of god.
As I have said before, the doctrine of God is the most important doctrine there is, if any man errs on that doctrine, all other doctrines will most likely be NOT of God and be burned up with fire."
I agree. Do you feel the fire?
Brenda, that sounds nice, but that is not true.
You said, 'You can not see Jesus in the flesh Paul, yet Jesus is speaking these words to all who the Father brings to Him, including us'
Your problem is that you don’t believe that the Lord Jesus Christ is the LORD GOD Almighty.
(John 4:24), God is Spirit and you cannot see a spirit unless he is clothed in flesh.
The Lord Jesus Christ IS the Spirit (2 Cor. 3:17) who appeared in a BODY of flesh (1 Tim. 3:16) and we all beheld His glory as the only begotten Son of God, and He walked among us and madey Himself known.
When God walked among us in the cool of the evening we ALL saw Him with our natural eyes and after He died and rose again we saw Him again with our own eyes in various different places even to this very day.
But He only manifests Himself to those who have His Commandments and keep them.
And those who transgress the first and second Commandment of the Lord cannot see Him, because they don’t believe in Him.
What do you think Brenda, can those who don’t believe in the Lord Jesus Christ understand the Scriptures ?
When the Scriptures said that the Lord Jesus is without father or mother or genealogy (Hebrew 7:3), You say contrary to Scriptures that He (Jesus God) has a father.
Even common sense will tell you that, if Jesus IS the LORD GOD He cannot have a father or a mother or a GOD, and why don’t you believe the Scriptures ?
You said, "Do you not believe that I am in the Father and the Father is in me? The words that I say to you I do not speak on my own authority, but the Father who dwells in me does his works. Believe me that I am in the Father and the Father is in me, or else believe on account of the works themselves."
Yes Brenda, that alone should tell you that Jesus is the Father. Or do you think that the Father is someone else called Yahweh ? then please show it to me in the Scriptures.
And if Jesus words are spirit and life, then obvious they are not Greek and Hebrew.
Keith,
Well my friend, you really sound cool, and you know what happens when we add heat to your cool ? :-)
Yes, you are right, you become lukewarm, but we will add FIRE, so that you get on fire for the Lord Jesus Christ :-)
You know that the Lord Jesus will spew the lukewarm out of His mouth. :-(
OK, since you don’t want to talk about Isaiah 44:24, let’s look what it actually says and what it actually means.
Verse 24 "Thus says the Lord, your Redeemer, and the one who formed you from the womb, I the Lord, am the maker of all things, Stretching out the heavens by Myself And spreading out the earth all alone."
That is what it actually says.
First few words "Thus says the LORD".
Now tell me, which LORD is that ?
See, “Lord” is written with a big "L" and not with a little ‘l’.
The scriptures said that there is ONE Lord and NOT TWO lords (Eph. 4:5-6
OK, you need to believe that there is only ONE LORD just as the Scripture says. There are NOT TWO Lords, one with a big L and the other with a little l. No! Every time when God is addressed it is written with a BIG “L”, meaning the LORD which is the title of GOD.
And it is the LORD Jesus Christ who claims to be that LORD and Jesus is always addressed as Lord with the big "L" through the entire Scriptures.
Now I need to hear it from your lips that Jesus Christ is the LORD GOD alone.
And note, there is no one called Lord Yahweh in the entire Scriptures. Not even his name is mentioned.
Keith, the fire has only be kindled, can you feel it’s heat ? :-o it’s more to come from Isaiah 44:24.
The Spirit inside Jesus was the Lord God Almighty Paul. We are only one with Him in the Spirit, not the flesh.
Hi Brenda,
Why is it so difficult for you to say that the Lord Jesus Christ is the Lord God Almighty the creator of heaven and earth ?
Why do you demote Him ? What has He done to you that you don’t like Him to be the first and the last, the Alpha and the Omega, and that beside Him is no other God ?
Brenda, you have fallen so far away from the Lord Jesus Christ that you can’t see it anymore. The god of this world Yahweh has blinded your eyes so that you can’t see the majesty of the Lord Jesus Christ.
That is a shame Brenda.
What will you say on that day, if the Lord Jesus Christ would say to you, ‘depart from Me, I never knew you’ ?
I’m amazed that you and Tim and Keith didn’t even preach the Gospel to Jeremy, over at Keith’s blog (Christian Thought).
Just read all of your three comments, not even one of you mentioned the Name of the Saviour JESUS Christ.
All you have is a ‘God talk’; I call it a Godless talk. The moment when you remove Jesus from God then it has become Godless talk, and do you think that Jeremy would be saved when you present religion to him ?
It seems to me that all of you are ashamed to preach JESUS, therefore you rather preach a god called Yahweh who cannot save.
That is exactly what what all apostate churches preach, they travel over land and over sea, and when they have one convert, they make them twice a son of hell, who will believe in that false god called Yahweh.
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Sorry, called Jeremy 'William'
Blogger Brenda said...
Once again Paul your mission appears to be to attack everyone who does not adhere to your Puritan doctrine.
I have told you many times that I am a believer in Christ Jesus, and referred to scripture always to confirm what I believe.
Regarding my comment on Tim's blog, I have spoken of my experience after becoming a believer in Christ saying:-
'Seven years later, after becoming a believer in Christ I opened my Bible to Jeremiah ch. 1 to where God was saying to Jeremiah that He knew him before He formed him in the womb, before he was born.'
Jeremy is asking about God and I am sharing with Him part of my testimony, as the Lord has brought me to do. One can plant, one can water but it is only God who can add the increase and no man can come to Jesus except he is called by God.
John ch. 6 vs. 44,45 quotes Jesus as saying:-
'No one can come to me unless the Father who sent me draws him. And I will raise him up on the last day. It is written in the Prophets, ‘And they will all be taught by God.’ Everyone who has heard and learned from the Father comes to me—
Yes Brenda, I know what you have said to Jeremy. If Jeremy was asking about God, then why didn’t you presented Jesus Christ to Him ?
He doesn’t need religion, he needs to know who God is, and God is the Lord Jesus Christ, and there is NO other Name given whereby Jeremy must be saved.
John 10:30 the Lord Jesus said, “I and the Father are ONE” ! consequently the Lord Jesus and the Father are NOT TWO.
If the Lord Jesus Christ is in union with another god called Yahweh or ‘Father’, then they are TWO. And don’t say contrary to what the Lord Jesus has said.
John 14:9 “He who has seen me has seen the Father”.
Isaiah 63:16 “You, O Lord, are our Father, Our Redeemer from of old is Your name.”
John 8:24 “Therefore I said to you that you will die in your sins; for unless you believe that I am He, you will die in your sins.”
Jesus and the Father are One in spirit, as those children of God who are born of that Spirit are one with Jesus and God as Jesus Himself says.
Brenda, Jesus said in John 10:30 "I and the Father are ONE", He didn’t say that He and someone else called Father are one in the Spirit.
I have told many times that you need to read the Scriptures carefully, for it is the Word of the living God Jesus Christ and you need to think what the Lord Jesus is saying, and don’t assume things it does NOT say. And last, you need to believe what the Lord Jesus Christ is saying.
Otherwise your religion is useless, you have believed in vain and it doesn’t benefit you or anyone else.
Where is my friend ? does is get a little hot for you ?
Isaiah 44:24, "Thus says the Lord, your Redeemer, and the one who formed you from the womb, I the Lord, am the maker of all things, Stretching out the heavens by Myself And spreading out the earth all alone."
We are still at the first part, “Thus says the LORD, your Redeemer,”
I can understand that you don’t want to look at Isaiah 44:24, but, whether you like it or not, the one who is speaking is the LORD, yes ‘JESUS’ ! and not a god called Yahweh or Jehovah, since we all know that Yahweh or Jehovah or Allah or Krishna who can NOT Redeem.
And neither are those gods LORD,
1 Corinthians 8:5-6 Many lords, but for US is but ONE LORD !
1 Corinthians 1:6 ONE LORD, Jesus Christ.
All those gods cannot save ! and there is no other Name given under heaven and on earth whereby you must be saved, no other than JESUS who is the Christ (Acts 4:12).
Now, when it says “No other Name”, that’s exactly what it means, No other Name than Jesus Christ.
The Lord Jesus Christ said, “Turn to Me and be saved, all the ends of the earth; For I am God and there is no other.” (Isaiah 45:22)
Can you see, all other names and gods can NOT save and neither can they Redeem.
Any other name is an impostor and an antichrist.
So then, do you agree that Jesus Christ alone is the LORD in Isaiah 44:24 and any other LORD is burned off ?
And do you agree that Jesus Christ alone is the saviour Redeemer in Isaiah 44:24 and any other saviour or Redeemer is burned off ?
Well, have you become speechless my friend ?
We are still in Isaiah 44:24, "Thus says the Lord, your Redeemer, and the one who formed you from the womb, I the Lord, am the maker of all things, Stretching out the heavens by Myself And spreading out the earth all alone.”
The second part of Isaiah 44:24, "and the one who formed you from the womb, I the Lord, am the maker of all things, Stretching out the heavens by Myself And spreading out the earth all alone."
Can you see, there is no god called Yahweh who created you THROUGH a man called Y'shuah.
By now I hope that you would agree that the ‘LORD’ is the Lord Jesus Christ who has formed you in the womb ?
Remember, (Col. 1:15-20) says that By Him (the Lord Jesus Christ) ALL things were created, both in the heavens and on the earth, visible and invisible etc. through Him and for Him etc.
So , therefore I hope that you agree that the Lord Jesus Christ is the LORD God Almighty who is the creator in Genesis 1:1 ?
And of course there is NO other God called Jehovah, Yahweh or Father who created things THOUGH another god, just like He has said that He makes all thing alone (Isa 44:24) (last part).
Just that passage alone testifies that Jesus Christ alone is the LORD God the creator of heaven and earth and everything in it, and that there is no other god or entity called God, Father, Jehovah or Yahweh.
It is the Lord Jesus Christ alone who is the Redeemer and saviour and some will be saved as through FIRE (1 Cor. 3:15).
For EVERYONE will be salted with FIRE ! (Mark 9:49).
If everyone will be salted with fire, then why do you hide ?
Does the word ‘EVERYONE’ exclude you ?
(Matthew 7:21-23) to them the Lord Jesus Christ said that He never knew them. Do you think that they were excluded from the fire of the Lord Jesus Christ ?
Surely, the Lord Jesus must have known ABOUT them ?
Or, perhaps was it that they didn’t believe in Him and didn’t know Him ?
Or, did they rather believe in a trinity of gods, or in a god called Jehovah, Yahweh, Allah or Krishna?
(2 Thes. 1:8) The Lord Jesus punish all who do not know God, or will they be salted with fire ?
What are your thoughts ? let me know, and let your beliefs be tested, for only the truth will remain :-)
OK. Again, how erational and deceptive is that; ONE god by the name of Jehovah or Yahweh created the heavens and the earth THROUGH someone else called Y’shua.
This kind of thoughts and teachings have to be the epitome of all deception.
And people who claim to believe the Scriptures and say that Yahweh is God, even though the name of Yahweh is NOT even mentioned in the Scriptures.
Bible teachers claim that the Father is NOT the Lord Jesus Christ, even though the Lord Jesus Christ claims to be the Father.
Well, do such people lack intelligence ? I don’t think so !
I think such blatant oxymoronic reasoning is the work of a deceiver, and we all know who that deceiver is.
That alone would be another good reason to let your doctrines be tested by FIRE.
Paul, I just wanted you to know that I'm still praying for you. I hope one day you will actually read the Bible, for yourself and allow God's Holy Spirit to lead you into all truth, rather than teach what man has taught you.
Hi Keith,
So you are still praying for me ?
Well. you are very kind my friend :-) but WHO do you think is going to listen to your prayers ? in other words, WHICH god do you think has ears to hear and the power to respond? Is it Jehovah ? or Yahweh ? or perhaps Allah or Krishna ?
NO no my friend, those gods are the gods of this world because people worship them, but the TRUE God is the the Lord Jesus Christ (1 John 5:20). In fact, He is The ONLY God our SAVIOUR (Jude 1:25), and not only that, the Lord Jesus Christ is the GREAT God and saviour (Titus 2:10-13).
What do you think, can one of your gods outdo the Lord of glory Jesus Christ ?
Well I think NOT :-)
Again, who do you think is going to listen to your prayer ?
Hi Paul,
So you are still praying for me ?
Yes, of course, I am still praying for you. I always pray for the lost.
Is the God of Y'shua, Jesus, your God?
There is only one who listens and answers our prayers. God.
I also know that you are in need of prayer.
Your comment is a great example of you being lost. You misquote scripture. Children of God don't misquote scripture.
Titus 2:11-13 doesn't say Christ is the Great God and Savior. 1 John 5:20 doesn't say that Jesus is the true God. The following is what the scriptures actually say.
For God’s grace, which brings deliverance, has appeared to all people. It teaches us to renounce godlessness and worldly pleasures, and to live self-controlled, upright and godly lives now, in this age; while continuing to expect the blessed fulfillment of our certain hope, which is the appearing of the Sh’khinah of our great God and the appearing of our Deliverer, Yeshua the Messiah.
And we know that the Son of God has come and has given us an understanding, that we may know Him who is true; and we are in Him who is true, in His Son Jesus Christ. This is the true God and eternal life.
I'll continue to pray for you.
Well well my friend, anyone who believes in the Lord Jesus Christ is NOT lost, but safe and secure in the arms of Jesus :-)
You said, “There is only one who listens and answers our prayers. God.”
‘God’, WHO ? do you mean Jehovah or Allah or Krishna ?
Please tell me which God you are talking about ?
Remember, ‘God’ is a title or description (Deity) of someone, therefore tell me of WHOM ?
You said, “Your comment is a great example of you being lost. You misquote scripture. Children of God don't misquote scripture.”
I do NOT misquote Scriptures !
I rarely quote Scriptures because I think that you should be able to read the Scriptures for yourself.
The Lord Jesus Christ has NOT commanded me to quote the Scriptures to you, but to present Jesus Christ to you as the ONLY God.
Now, read again Titus 2:13 “the appearing of the glory of our GREAT GOD and SAVIOR, Christ Jesus.”
Now tell me, is there another great God and Savior, other than the Lord Jesus Christ ?
It is so plainly obvious that the Lord Jesus Christ is the great GOD and Savior. Only a twisted mind will say that someone else is the great God and Savior.
And it doesn’t say what you have said; Just read what the Bible actually says and not what you like it to say.
Rightly you have quoted 1 John 5:20, but it seems to me that He hasn’t given you any understanding, otherwise you would believe that God’s Son is the true God and eternal life.
YES ! it does say in Titus 2:3 that Jesus is our GREAT GOD and SAVIOR. And also in 1 John 5:20 that Jesus Christ IS the TRUE God and eternal life and also in Jude 1:25 that the Lord Jesus Christ is the ONLY God our saviour.
Just think, there is no other God who can save, only GOD our saviour can save.
I don't know about you Paul, but I'm still here.
I would like to know what you think about Revelation 22:13. Jesus said He was the Alpha and the Omega. Is that English?
Answer (since you won't): No. It is Greek. Why? Because the NT was written in Greek. It had an original language! If English was the original language then all the translations would say I am the A and the Z. The only ones that say A and the Z are the new watered down versions written for Millennials like The Message, or God's Word translations. The Hebrew translation says I am the alef and tav.
See, the Bible had an original language with original purposes. I don't believe the purpose has changed and that we can still be 100% saved by the translation we have. But to understand God even more we can go back to the first words written and learn even more. That's the glory of God, always giving us something to learn.
Tim, the Bible is written for you in English, and it says that Jesus Christ is the FIRST and the LAST (Rev. 1:17-18) and if you can’t understand that, then how will you know what the Alpha and the Omega, the beginning and the end is ?
And neither can you understand God even more by reading a book in Swahili or in Greek. For Jesus said, John 8:24 ‘You will die in your sins; for unless you believe that I am He, you will die in your sins.'
And where does it say in the Bible that the glory of God will always giving you something to learn ?
Is that also in the Greek ? or perhaps in the Swahili book of fables ?
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I'm not playing your game and posting each time you respond. I only posted on three different posts since you weren't answering your latest comments.
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