The “TRINITY” the Antichrist doctrine! Why?
“I am the Lord your God, you shall have NO OTHER gods before me.”
He said that the most important of all the Commandments is this: “Hear, O Israel the Lord our God, the Lord is one” (Mark 12:29).
Anyone who transgresses that Commandment of the Lord will NOT go unpunished.
Antichrist means, in the place of the Lord Jesus Christ and against the Lord Jesus Christ.
Every man or spirit that preaches and teaches contrary to Scripture and does NOT acknowledge the Lord Jesus Christ to be the only ‘ONE’ true God (1John 5:20), is the spirit of the Antichrist.
Plainly any man that preaches and teaches “ANOTHER” person or identity next of Jesus Christ as God, is speaking by the spirit of the Antichrist.
The “TRINITY” spirit denies that Jesus is the Father, (John 14:9 and Isaiah 9:6).
The Trinity spirit teaches that the Father is ‘ANOTHER’ person than Jesus, the first person of three individuals.
The Trinity spirit denies that Jesus is the Holy Father (Isa.9:6) and addresses the Pope of Rome as the “HOLY FATHER”; contrary to Scripture (Mat.23:9-10).
(John 10:30) Jesus said, ‘I and the Father are ONE, the Trinity spirit said, “Jesus and the Father are TWO.”
The Scripture said (2 Cor. 3:17), The Lord Jesus is the Spirit, the Trinitarian spirit said, the Lord Jesus is NOT the Spirit, but ‘ANOTHER’ person, the third person of their many gods is the Holy Spirit.
The Scripture said (Heb.7:3) that Jesus has NO Mother or Father, the Trinitarian spirit teaches that the Lord Jesus had a Father and a Mother (Mary).
The Trinitarian spirit teaches that there are three gods, and all those gods are talking to each other. The lesser god has his own separate will and is saying to the other (unknowable) god, ‘Not my will be done, but your will be done’.
On the cross, one god is talking to another god, saying ‘My god, why have you forsaken me’.
This is the Trinity, a disgrace and an insult to the true and living God Jesus Christ our Lord and only God (Jude 8:25).
Well! That is only the beginning of this satanic doctrine the Trinity; in fact, in every Scripture passage this Trinitarian spirit will demote the Lord Jesus from His supremacy in all things.
All Trinitarians have received a spirit which is NOT from the only true God of the Bible (1 John 5:20). They have received, ‘Another Jesus, another spirit and another gospel, other than we preach’ (2Cor. 11:4 + Gal.1:6-9).
Therefore it is of great importance for everyone who has been ensnared by this devilish doctrine the Trinity to seek the Lord’s forgiveness, repent and separate yourself from those doctrines and to openly expose and condemn them, so that you will not partake of their sins and suffer the consequences of transgressing the first and foremost of all the Commandments.
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The “TRINITY” the Antichrist doctrine! Why?Posted by Paul G Saturday, April 14, 2012
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Thanks for the visit and comment you left. Your comment was most encouraging and I needed that.
My offer to join as a follower is still there.
God bless you brother Paul..Sound word!
Joseph
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Am I mistaken, or do you appear to agree with some scriptures, and not with others, as if some scriptures should not be in the Bible?
Thanks Brenda for your comment;
I agree with all Scripture.
All Scripture is the written Word of God and without error, it profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness (2Tim.3:16).
That's right Paul, that's what I believe too.
best wishes
Brenda
When Jesus prays or speaks to the Father, or when the Father's voice is heard speaking to or of Jesus... what's going on?
JP where does the Father speak to Jesus?
Who is the Father Jesus is speaking to?
Is the Lord Jesus the Lord God ? Or is the Father the Lord God? Or, are both together Lords and Gods?
How many gods do you believe in?
JP this is the problem we have in most Christian Churches is they have fallen away from the Lord Jesus Christ to another god and call him Father, this is called the apostasy.
Even though the Lord Jesus said in (Jeremiah 3:19) 'I thought you would call me 'Father' and not turn away from following me. But like a woman unfaithful to her husband, so you have been unfaithful to Me'.
Kind regards
Paul
"Where does the Father speak to Jesus?"
Hrm. There might not be an instance in the Bible of that. The closest I can find is:
John 12:28 > Father, glorify thy name. Then came there a voice from heaven, saying, I have both glorified it, and will glorify it again.
But the Father's voice is heard at times, and I'm pretty sure Jesus isn't ventriloquizing. ;) For example:
Matt 17:5 > While he yet spake, behold, a bright cloud overshadowed them: and behold a voice out of the cloud, which said, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased; hear ye him.
And Jesus speaks of the Father here, among other places:
Matt 10:32 > Whosoever therefore shall confess me before men, him will I confess also before my Father which is in heaven.
And Jesus speaks to the Father here, among other places:
John 17:1 > These words spake Jesus, and lifted up his eyes to heaven, and said, Father, the hour is come; glorify thy Son, that thy Son also may glorify thee: ...
"Who is the Father Jesus is speaking to?"
I think that's what I'm trying to figure out.
I do believe Jesus is Lord and God. I do believe the Father is God and Lord. I'm just not sure if that means Jesus (the Son) is the Father. I'm not sure if when Jesus says that "I and the Father are one" he means "I am the Father" or "I am united to the Father".
Yes JP that's right, there is no incident in the Bible where the Father is speaking to Jesus, that is because the Lord Jesus is our heavenly Father.
It is interesting that on no occasion the Father ever turned up when Jesus was in a difficult or in a peculiar situation like the temptation in the dessert (Mat. 4:11). Perhaps you wonder why the Father didn't appeared to assist Jesus, and at the transfiguration (Mat. 17:3) and many more.
The reason is that Jesus is the Father and there is no other person out there called Father.
For that reason Jesus said, 'If you do not know that I am He (the Father and the true God of all creation), you will die in your sins' (John 8:24).
Therefore it is of great importance that we as believers do not have another God next to Jesus Christ our Lord.
If you believe that Jesus is the Lord God and another person called the Father is also a God, then you believe in two Gods and your faith and trust in the Lord Jesus Christ is undermined by the second god whom you call the Father.
Yes it seems that the Scriptures imply that there could be two or three persons who are God, but that is only to those who don't understand the Scripture or personally know the Lord.
For understanding the Scripture it is important to know that ALL Scriptures testify to Jesus Christ our Lord and it must be explained in Him.
So every time when Jesus is speaking about the Father, He is speaking metaphorically, Jesus does not have a Father (Hebr. 7:3) because He is the Father (John 14:7-9) and to us there is only one God and that is the Father (1 Cor. 8:6).
(John 16:25) Jesus said, "Though I have been speaking figuratively, a time is coming when I will no longer use this kind of language but will tell you plainly about my Father."
It is exactly the same that God did not have a Son but rather He is the Son, that's Jesus! According to Scripture Jesus is CALLED the Son of the most High (Luke 1:32).
This all is metaphorical language to convey to us that this God who is Spirit (John 4 :24) has clothed Himself with flesh and became just like one of us, and because of that he had to act and behave just like one of the brethren.
God does not need to pray, but as a men He did pray (John 17) as an example for us and as the last high Priest in the order of Melchizedek.
Neither does God need to suffer, but as a man He suffered, not for His sins, (because He has no sin) but for our sins on the cross of Calvary.
Paul
Jesus is the express image of God, when we speak to Him it is like being on a telephone. So if we speak to Jesus, we speak to the Father because He is the only mediator between man and God. God is Almighty God, Jesus is Mighty God whom the Almighty God Yahweh has made our Lord. Jesus means 'Yahweh saves' and when we come to Him we have to have our minds renewed in Christ to become like Him. God is Spirit, and the only way we can have communication with Him on this Earth is through Jesus, who is the Word of God. When we come to Him repenting of our sins that Word in the Holy scriptures becomes a daily renewal of our minds as we seek God through it. It is the 'mana' that we pick up to eat while we are coming out of 'Egypt', the world under the grip of satan, as we go through our wilderness on the way to the promised land. We are a new creation being taught by God,through the Word of God, given to us by grace because of Jesus sacrifice, and must take captive every thought to make it obedient to Christ. He is the blood on our doopost protecting us from the destroyer while we remain in Him.
Thanks again Brenda, I left a reply to your comment on the other post "Is Jesus Christ the Lord God the Almighty".
It seems to me that you have given a lot of thought about this topic and in part I agree with you, but you still believe in two Gods, in the Mighty God Jesus and in the Almighty God called 'Yahweh'.
Because of that you transgress the first and foremost of all the commandments of the Lord and you desperately need to deal with that.
Brenda; You shall have NO OTHER beside the Lord Jesus your only God (Jude 1:25), and believe only in Him and in no one else.
Example;
Jesus said, I and the Father are ONE (John 10:30).
You say, Jesus and the Father are TWO.
That only shows that you don't believe Jesus.
It's not that the Scriptures are wrong, it's you who is wrong, perhaps because you don't understand certain Scripture passages.
Kind regards
Paul
I believe absolutely what Jesus speaks because Jesus is the written word which is enlightened to me by the Holy Spirit reflecting perfectly to me God the Father who is Spirit. The only thing that matters is that God has made Jesus my Lord while I am on this Earth and I must follow Him. If I remain in His light I will have run the race and be one in Him and the Father. I can not take out of the Bible the words Jesus has spoken concerning 'His Father' any more than I can take out of the Bible the words that tell me that God has made Jesus my Lord, or that He has put all things under His feet. If I did I would be guilty of taking adding or taking away from what the Bible says. What matters for my salvation is that I believe in Jesus by hearing His word that is taught to me by the Holy Spirit, which Jesus is, and acting on it.
Paul,
a way of trying to expain to you that I do not believe in two Gods has just come to me. You and I both breath in 'air'. We are different vessels but 'air' is one substance. God is one Spirit in all vessels He resides in.
best wishes
Brenda
Brenda, I like what you are saying and I agree with all you have said, but there is an 'OTHER' you also believe in.
You believe that 'OTHER' made Jesus Lord, or God and Jesus are two vessels in one substance, just like you and I are two vessels out of one substance.
Brenda, that is Trinitarian thinking and not true, it's not easy to throw off that 'OTHER' you believe in.
God and Jesus are not two separate identities. Jesus is the God of the Old Testament and the New Testament, He does not change, He is the same today, yesterday and tomorrow.
Likewise the Father and Jesus are not two separate identities, Jesus is the God and Father of all His His creation and of all His children (God=creation, Father=children).
Jesus is not the Son of another identity called God, Jesus is only CALLED the Son of the most High God in a metaphorical sense just as He is CALLED the lamb of God.
Paul
I can only say as Jesus Himself said 'IT IS WRITTEN'. There is no arguement, I work out my own salvation and have my peace in Jesus.
Best wishes for working out your salvation Paul.
By the way Paul, I do not use nor have ever used the word 'trinity'. It is not in the Bible. The fullness of God is in Jesus.
Thank you Brenda, I will do that.
Kind regards
Paul
"Yes JP that's right, there is no incident in the Bible where the Father is speaking to Jesus, that is because the Lord Jesus is our heavenly Father."
Hi again, Paul. I've been thinking about our conversation for a while, and I just realized that there are two verses (one in Luke, one in Mark) where God the Father (or at least, a voice from Heaven) is addressing Jesus:
The Holy Spirit descended upon him in bodily form, as a dove, and a voice came from heaven, "Thou art my beloved Son; with thee I am well pleased." (Luke 3:22)
A voice came from heaven, "Thou art my beloved Son; with thee I am well pleased." (Mark 1:11)
Of course, in Matthew's Gospel, this is rendered differently:
Lo, a voice from heaven, saying, "This is my beloved Son, with whom I am well pleased." (Matt 3:17)
i JP;
A voice did came from the Father, but it did not come from another person as you might think. That voice came from the Spirit of the Lord Jesus because God is Spirit (John 4:24) and the Spirit is the Lord Jesus (2 Cor. 3:17).
Heaven is the realm of the spirit, and that voice was speaking and still is speaking to you and me and to everyone else to believe that the Lord Jesus Christ is the only one we ought to believe.
If you believe that Jesus is the Lord God and in someone else the Father who is also God, then you believe in two gods and transgress the first commandment.
If you believe that the Father is God, then by necessity you cannot believe that Jesus is God and you will die in your sins (John 8:24).
So then there is only one scenario left; That Jesus is the only true God (1 John 5:20), and before Him no god was formed, nor will there be one after Him (Isa. 43:10).
Paul
@Paul
"Heaven is the realm of the spirit"
as it is written:
"The LORD is in his holy temple, the LORD's throne is in heaven"
God bless you brother Paul.
Joseph
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1Ti 3:16 And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory.
1Jn 3:8 He that committeth sin is of the devil; for the devil sinneth from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil.
2Jn 1:7 For many deceivers are entered into the world, who confess not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh. This is a deceiver and an antichrist.
If God was manifested in the flesh and the Son of God was manifested, then Jesus Christ was God manifested in the flesh. God came in the flesh of Jesus Christ. God was wholly in Christ, in the flesh from his conception to bring about our salvation. There is only one God. God is spirit.
1Jn 4:3 And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.
1Jn 4:3 And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.
Now I propose that where scripture says Jesus Christ is come in the flesh, that every Christian must have foremost in his mind 1 Timothy 3:16. He must know that that all blessings come from the ONE God, ONE Lord, One Spirit, they come from I AM.
Now if Catholics and Protestants divide God, I say divide him into 3 persons or 2 as the Unitarians do, then they are worshipping another god. Then if they continue in this vain and build further false doctrines they have resurrected the Babylonian Mystery Religion that was wounded and now lives in a false Jesus. Thus we can come to begin to understand why ‘Christians’ are so divided and why they are so blood thirsty.
Rom 10:9 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.
Are those who say Jesus has come in flesh really of God or are they antichrists? I believe in order to understand this you must know who Jesus Christ is. Are Trinitarians Christians or Antichrists?
Trinitarians say Jesus Christ is co-eternal with the father, this is another god and a different Jesus or Lord…Jesus came into being when he was conceived by the Holy Ghost. They make Jesus another God, and even though they say he is god it is a different god or person than Our Jesus Christ. So another person from eternity jumped into Mary’s womb. It was not God, but another god…you can begin to see how much Satan loves confusion, if he can obfuscate truth and subvert it…then, he can add more false doctrines upon that foundation. God’s doctrine says one thing but men inspired by Satan say another contradicting the scripture, doctrine and the truth. Thus another Jesus that is not the Father who is spirit. Jesus Christ was God in the flesh (in fullness of the Godhead) not another person in the flesh. They say Jesus is of the same substance as the father but they cannot deny they separate Jesus from the work of the one God. Again they blaspheme truth, they say Jesus one Person from eternity and the Holy Ghost another person from eternity are different but all 3 agree, more confusion. The Holy Ghost now one person jumps into the womb of Mary and so does Jesus another person from eternity. What more confusion do you want before you scream. Total bedlam, total lies and hypocrisy that blatantly contradicts the truth. If one remains in this confusion how can they possibly come to understand who Jesus Christ is. Babylon is the City of Confusion. It relates to confusion of the languages by God because men sought to place themselves in-stead of god. They were men who challenged heaven for supremacy of the earth and to be lord over God’s heritage. God confounded their speech just as he has confounded the so called Trinitarian Christian churches who just like the divided nation’s… war against one another. The war is to annihilate all knowledge of the Living God! It will end with one man (coming in his own name and not in the name of the Father) possessed of Satan shaking his fist at heaven blaspheming the true God. Surprise, surprise…a multitude of “Christians” will be among them and with him, proclaiming… away with this Jesus, we will not have the true Jesus Christ reign over us, we will have our own Jesus who comes in his own name. Gee whiz, it sounds like Pharisaical Judeo-Christian Zionist claptrap…all dripping with the blood of the saints of God! Babylon the Great…Mother! I believe it all started with Constantine and Roman Catholicism and it will not end well for them and the daughters.
Joh 5:43 I am come in my Father's name, and ye receive me not: if another shall come in his own name (himself), him ye will receive.
Mar 13:6 For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many.
Luk 21:8 And he said, Take heed that ye be not deceived: for many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and the time draweth near: go ye not therefore after them.
This last verse has a twist in Luke. He will deceive many when the “time draweth near”, what time….the time of the end of the kingdoms of this world! Apparently Jesus is warning of the ‘last days’.
What is in a name….think brothers and sisters….think
Isa 9:6 For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.
You might also add, Melchizedec, Jesus Christ, Jehovah, YHVH, Son of God, Son of man. Thou hast made us a body! Do not put limits on the Lord God.
Isa 54:5 For thy Maker is thine husband; the LORD of hosts is his name; and thy Redeemer the Holy One of Israel; The God of the whole earth shall he be called.
Add the 6 pointed Judeo-Christians to the 6 pointed Calvinists. Walla instant bloodfest to Molech
Wow brother William, I like your comment, it's great stuff.
The Lord Jesus has given you a great insight into His Word and the spirit. Your kind of understanding is very rare in today's world, if you have a blog spot, please give me a link.
"The Babylonian Mystery Religion that was wounded and now lives in a false Jesus." Very well said brother.
Forgive me for my ignorance, but I don't understand your last comment "Add the 6 pointed Judeo-Christians to the 6 pointed Calvinists. Walla instant bloodfest to Molech."
Please can you tell me more about that.
Kind regards
Paul
Paul how do I get your email address. I do not want air laundry for all to see. I do not want to introduce something that is out side your main topics. No I do not have a blog or website.
William, I'm hesitant to give my email address over the net, but feel free to air your Laundry or change the topic or whatever you like here on my blog.
I think you would have a good spiritual input into my life and to everyone who reads those comments, even if it's controversial or crosses the mainstream thinking, no one will know you except our Lord Jesus.
Remember we are open books and read by all men whether they accept our testimony or not, it makes no difference.
Paul
OK Paul here goes, may God Bless those who have eyes and ears with understanding. Maybe 1 in 10,000 will understand.
Why I want no tulips in my garden. Why I want only the Word of God dwelling richly in my heart. All well and good…you lift up men and their religions…well shame on us all! How long must we be children swayed by the doctrines and commandments of men and of (C)hurches? Paul exclaimed I’m afraid of you all, and thank God I only baptized a couple of your hardheads. You want to say I’m a Presbyterian, I’m an Episcopalian, I’m a Calvinist 4 pointer, 5 pointer or 6 pointer; we are to be Christ pointers. Well, well, well…I’m afraid of you all! You are the ones who keep promoting strife and division. You are the ones who want to cause me grief. Is Christ divided? Did he die for your doctrines…let us reason, look at what you have sewed…now look at what is being reaped! You are to know the Lord Jesus Christ and him on a stake lifted up for you. You are to be taught by the Holy Ghost and to know God intimately in your own heart. But you will continue to lift up men and doctrines instead of searching out a matter diligently for yourselves. Away with you. But I’m of Paul and you’re of Apollos, away with you, 2000 years and you are still dwelling in a carnal mind. Those that know me are taught of me. You think you are free, you have liberty. But I AM is the only freedom, not your Church, certainly not your doctrine and positively not your nation!
You say this nation is blessed or that nation is blessed…Israel believed that until 70AD. The world will believe it too until sudden destruction comes and takes them all away!!! They forgot God and learned the ways of the heathen…I had long departed from Israel and they continued to lie to themselves; now the nations are in the same condition. The leaders in Israel brought the Babylonian Mystery Religion into Israel. They did and still believe they are the chosen of God and no amount of rebuke will bring them to repentance. They imbibed the spirit of the antichrist religion long before I died for their sins. They were haughty and refused to change, lifted up in their own imaginations. They kicked against the prick or truth. Then they added unto their sins with even more rebellious. They became pseudo-Christians and brought their Babylonian-Greek religion into Christianity through false doctrines and commandments of men. They taught the Gentiles their ways and the Gentiles accepted it. They closed the scriptures to men making their word appear as the Word of God…they slowly introduced the doctrines of the Pharisees among you…and you were never the wiser! The Word delivered unto the saints was changed until it was unrecognizable until finally they controlled what you believed and what you heard by doing away with scripture and changing it…all so slowly. You blame Catholicism, when all Catholicism is, is rejuvenated Phariseeism that cloaked the new Religion of Zionism. Antichrist imbibers. 100 percent of the Zionist backers have no idea what religion they are endorsing.
Now you bless antichrist Israel which is the instrument of your destruction and say that it is my will, the will of God almighty who cursed the fig tree. Your combined religion and politics and believed I was in the midst of it, formed your corporate 501C3 churches and called it God’s will! You endorsed Darby, Scofield, Ecuminicism, Dispensationalism…you endorsed men rolling around on the floor like dogs and barking, and you endorsed railing preachers telling you how great antichrist Israel is…you bought into deception after deception. Why? Because none of you knew me in your hearts, none seeketh after me but sought after men who tickle you with political doctrines and commandments of men. Did I die for this and open the Kingdom of Heaven for this? Let everyone of you weigh what has been said here. These are workers of iniquity that I have never known and never have known me.
Do we even know what hour this is? Do we know what commands Christ is giving to the assemblies now? Are we growing into the perfection which is in Christ? Do we not know that those who are in me know my voice and they will see eye to eye. They have been called out…the rest cannot hear nor see…they are a lukewarm mixture I am about to spew out of my mouth. Do we not know that Christ is coming for a bride without spot nor wrinkle? Do we not know it is Christ and Christ alone who perfects the saints; HE pulls down one and builds another himself. It is the Word of God that builds and sustains, yet ye still bite and devour.
Is 6 pointed Calvinism any different from the 6 pointed Zionists they support? Think! Be ye not partakers of her sins lest you receive of her plagues. What men do not see is the total picture from beginning to end. True Israel vs. false Israel. The biggest gambit is to replace the true with the false. Mixture will do this! Today, once you endorse a Religion you sink or swim according to ALL that they teach and ALL that they DO! That is the warning!!! COME OUT! COME OUT! COME OUT! Fear not little flock it is the Fathers good pleasure to give you the kingdom. They entered in and the door was shut!!! And none of them truly knew what a sorcerer, hypocrite, whoremonger was or nor did they know they were followers of the lie!
God forbid that we should glory in anything but in Christ Jesus Our Lord and be a partaker in his suffering to be raised in his likeness. I will glory in the finished work of Jesus Christ. Will you be hid in Christ on that great day of God Almighty? The Holy Ghost is only speaking to those who DO the will of God whose hearts have been circumcised.
Isa_59:7 Their feet run to evil, and they make haste to shed innocent blood: their thoughts are thoughts of iniquity; wasting and destruction are in their paths.
Lam_4:13 For the sins of her prophets, and the iniquities of her priests, that have shed the blood of the just in the midst of her,
Eze_22:12 In thee have they taken gifts to shed blood; thou hast taken usury and increase, and thou hast greedily gained of thy neighbours by extortion, and hast forgotten me, saith the Lord GOD.
What possesses Christians to believe they will escape the same fate as Israel when they are guilty of the same exact sins? The delusion…
Wow brother, that surely is the word from the Lord Jesus to this evil and compromising world and a call for His people to come out and be separate.
I can hear the voice of the Lord, and that which you have said has troubled me immensely for many years.
It seems to me that the Lord Jesus has given you the same message as He has given to me and I rejoice that you are doing a great job in proclaiming His word prophetically. Preach it from the rooftops, the highways and the byways, in season and out of season, convenient or not convenient, on topic or of topic, on my blog (hopefully) and on someone else's blog, and if you ever have your own blog-site, please give me a link and feel free to post more of the word of the Lord on this blog-site, even at the front-page (The Antichrist, the man of sin revealed).
May the Lord Jesus empower and bless you richly in everything you say and do.
Paul
Paul here is my temp email. If you are led contact me. I have PDF's and writing's that I can share with you. They are too long to put on a blog. william dot temporary at yahoo dot com
I believe that on this matter Scripture explains it best. Also, you may refer to the prayer Jesus (God's Word made flesh) makes to the Father in the Gospel of John. It is clear that Jesus is not praying to himself... I do not, however, believe in the trinity nor that there are two gods. God, the creator of Heaven and Earth took his Word and made it flesh so that His Word may live as a man but resist and commit no sin and give himself as a sacrifice for all humanity to be made right with God.
When simply reading the Bible, the Holy Spirit of God can teach anyone who truly seeks to understand, not through human speculation but by simply reading and accepting that ALL that we read is true.
Here is a part of Scripture for consideration: 1 Corinthians 24Then cometh the end, when he shall have delivered up the kingdom to God, even the Father; when he shall have put down all rule and all authority and power. 25For he must reign, till he hath put all enemies under his feet. 26The last enemy that shall be destroyed is death. 27For He hath put all things under his feet. But when he saith, all things are put under him, it is manifest that he is excepted, which did put all things under him. 28And when all things shall be subdued unto him, then shall the Son also himself be subject unto him that put all things under him, that God may be all in all.
I write this as I am in pain that , although mos tpuritans have been directed on the narrow gate for so many things and I truly love my brothers and sisters who base their faith exclusivelyon the Gospel and on Jesus Christ , I believe that this point is a central issue that makes people loose an important part of the truth. LEt us exaine the Bible ALONE: studies and human wisdom cannot lead us away from the TRUE Light of the Word of God. Iw rite this with a lot of love and with the hope that mor eand more souls find our Saviour, Jesus Christ.
Were the Puritans of the 16th century anti-trinitarian, or did this come later? I know that Unitarians
were anti-trinitarian in the 16th century, but I thought the Puritans were not.
Att: when you say All Scripture is the written Word of God and without error, it profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness (2Tim.3:16).... Remember that is only speaking of the OT.... When scriptures are referred in the NT they are talking of the OT as the church hadn't put the NT together yet... My 2 cents..
Remember that PAUL.. -- Clearly said, all written scriptures are for correction, doctrine, reproofing and perfecting..
Paul did not say that this was only concerning the Old Testament Scriptures. We know that Yahoshua established a Bible receiving church and commanded " himself " that a Book / Bible be sent to all churches.
PAUL COMMANDED HIS WRITINGS,/ bible, books, BIBLIOS be SENT TO ALL BROTHERS, ALL CHURCHES. The New Testament shows that the apostles and disciples were writing the scriptures and distributing them during their ministry to all of the churches.
Act 15:30 So when they were dismissed, they came to Antioch: and when they had gathered the multitude together, they delivered the epistle:
1Th 5:27 I charge you by the Lord that this epistle be read unto all the holy brethren.
Col 4:16 And when this epistle is read among you, cause that it be read also in the church of the Laodiceans; and that ye likewise read the epistle from Laodicea.
2Th 3:14 And if any man obey not our word by this epistle, note that man, and have no company with him, that he may be ashamed.
2Th 2:15 Therefore, brethren, stand fast, and hold the traditions which ye have been taught, whether by word, or our epistle.
2Th 3:17 The salutation of Paul with mine own hand, which is the token in every epistle: so I write.
2Pe 3:1 This second epistle, beloved, I now write unto you; in both which I stir up your pure minds by way of remembrance:
2Co 10:11 Let such a one think this, that, such as we are in word by epistles when we are absent, such will we be also in deed when we are present.
Heb 13:22 And I beseech you, brethren, suffer the word of exhortation: for I have written an epistle unto you in few words.
Act 15:20 But that we write unto them, that they abstain from pollutions of idols, and from fornication,
2Ti 4:13 The cloke that I left at Troas with Carpus, when thou comest, bring with thee, and the books, but especially the parchments.
Even at the end of St John's ministry - Rev 1:11 Yahoshua commanded - John " What thou seest, write in a book, and send it unto the seven churches. REMEMBER that St. Paul came to accept Yahoshua after he was crucified and risen and was not around Yahoshua during his time on earth.
Just because Paul and Timothy's writings were not completed when 2Tim.3:16 was written, this does not mean that Paul was not referring to the New Testament Scriptures.
The New Testament shows that the apostles and disciples were writing the scriptures and distributing them during their ministry to all of the churches. And Timothy commands that ALL _ all scriptures are profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness.
If Paul and Timothy were dispensing, directing, distributing and spreading around their scriptures as they were writing them - why would they intend one to believe that only the Old Testament Scriptures ALONE were profitable for doctrine ? and not their own scriptures ?
Often we see these types of comments come from Trinitarians, Catholics, and even Muslims who all simply have no scriptures for their faiths and simply ignore most of the scriptures and basic facts that do not orbit their sphere of faith.
Hey Paul,
Long time, no see. Perhaps this article of mine can help to clear up some of your confusion on this vital topic:
https://rationalchristiandiscernment.blogspot.com/2017/04/the-biblical-basis-for-trinity.html
Kind regards,
Jesse
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