What they all have in common is, they are False !
No matter what they are saying, they are False !
No matter how they rearrange their doctrines, they are False.
The Bible calls them the False Brethren.
If they teach, they are called False teachers, if they prophesy, they are called False prophets.
They ALL without exception have one thing in common; THEIR GOD is NOT the Lord Jesus Christ alone, and for that reason they are called the False Brethren.
It is as simple as that; they twist the Scriptures the Bible and they use other books, in Greek, in Latin, in Hebrew and Aramaic etc. to justify that their god is not the Lord Jesus Christ alone.
This is how you recognise that those brethren, teachers and prophets are antichrist (against the Lord Jesus Christ) (Jude 1:25).
1 John 4:1-6
"1 Dear friends, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, because many false prophets have gone out into the world.
2 This is how you recognise the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesses the Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is from God,
3 but every spirit that does not confess Jesus is not from God. This is the spirit of antichrist, which you have heard is coming and even now is already in the world.
4 You, dear children, are from God and have overcome them, because the one who is in you is greater than the one who is in the world.
5 They are from the world and therefore speak from the viewpoint of the world, and the world listens to them.
6 We are from God, and whoever knows God listen to us; but whoever is not from God does not listen to us. This is how we recognise the Spirit of truth and the spirit of falsehood."
What do you think, please leave me a comment.
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Let me add one more.....
When they add things to the Bible to support their false doctrines, like this poster, they are false.
Hi Anonymous, I appreciate that you are taking on the challenge.
Well, it’s the only way to find out the truth :-)
Where did they or I add things to the Bible to support my false doctrine ?
Also, how and where are they false in this poster ?
Please, demonstrate.
Just tell me where, so that I have something to work with.
I’m sure you have a Bible, don’t you ?
Put your “right” doctrine there and lay it out so that we have something to compare.
Stupid Jews and their Hebrew. Their lies infiltrate everywhere. Claiming they're God's people. I agree with you Paul.
Interesting! God has a sense of humor. He shows it here. By your own post, God has forced you to show your own hand.
1 John 4:2-3 says:
This is how you recognise the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesses the Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is from God,
3 but every spirit that does not confess Jesus is not from God. This is the spirit of antichrist,
You claim that Jesus IS God, even the Father himself and not FROM God, as the verse says. Therefore, by your own confession, you have the spirit of the Antichrist, which we knew all along.
Hi Anonymous, thanks for your comment.
All though I don’t think that the Jews are a stupid people, I like that they are a zealous people for their religion and for their God they have never come to know.
My Father the Lord Jesus Christ does actually call them a stupid people, saying (Jeremiah 4:22), “For My people are a foolish, They know Me not; They are STUPID children And have no understanding.
They are shrewd to do evil, But to do good they do not know.”
As far as they claim to be God’s people. Well, that remains to be seen.
My Father the Lord Jesus Christ tells them that they belong to their father the devil (John 8:44), which is lying, deceiving, accusing and all the rest of their sins, perhaps just like all the false brethren :-)
To the other Anonymous.
Perhaps can you leave a name to identify you, just any name is good, so that I can address you by a name.
Yes that is true, Every spirit that confesses the Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is from God, but every spirit that does NOT confess Jesus is NOT from God. This is the spirit of antichrist,
You said, “You claim that Jesus IS God, even the Father himself and not FROM God, as the verse says.”
That is legitimate language, Jesus is NOT from another God, as you assume.
Well, that verse says it simply and clearly, EVERY spirit that confesses JESUS CHRIST, that Jesus Christ is the God who came in the flesh IS of God.
And now the opposite, EVERY spirit that confesses NOT that JESUS has come in the flesh. This is the spirit of the antichrist.
In other words, the spirit of antichrist CANNOT say, or confess that “Jesus is my Father who is in heaven”, or even, “(1 Tim. 3:16) JESUS appeared in a body, taken up to heaven ..... .”
You see, the spirit of antichrist will ALWAYS and without fail use JESUS as a side-car, and offsider, a middle man, a son and so on.
OK. since we are on the subject of antichrist, I like to point out your Holy Father the Pope of Rome, the one who taught you to believe the trinity, three persons to be your gods.
And obviously you accept that serpent as your Holy Father, otherwise you would have pointed out the Pope of Rome to be THE antichrist, Yes, “THE ANTICHRIST”, not just an antichrist, but THE antichrist.
The one you still waiting to come, or will be revealed in the faaar future.
The one YOU are calling YOUR Holy Father the Pope of Rome.
But, just like all false brethren, you would never ever call the Lord Jesus Christ your Holy Father, the world would hate you. You rather disown the Lord Jesus Christ as your Holy Father and crown that serpent the Pope of Rome as your Holy Father.
The world listens to you, because you are of this world.
If you would be of God, then you would listen to me, because my testimony is of God.
Its so pleasantly quiet here...… :-)
Yes, it is. God silences the wicked one's tongue.
Hi, just back from six week in Europe, and I’m glad to be back in beautiful Australia.
OK. where are we ?
Only two comments. Hmmm, not many who are interested in the truth.
Yes, God silences the wicked one's tongue.
But please tell me WHICH God does silence your tongue ?
Is it Allah, or Buddha, or Jehovah, or is it Yahweh ? or perhaps could it be your Siamese triplet gods ?
Well, as it is with all false brethren, they can’t tell you the name of their God. They are ignorant of God’s one and only Name.
They always guess and assume that they believe in the true God.
But the true God, they do not want to know and neither can they.
...and still there's silence.
Yes, obvious, the Lord must have silenced your tongue.
Otherwise you would say something.
Since you don't say much of anything substantive and your posts are nothing but babble, it is quite obvious.
I meant, something intelligent, not just babble.
An interesting note, even though I know you will ignore it. In the very first version on the Bible in 1611, Philippians 2:11 says,
And that every tongue should confesse, that Iesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.
Please notice that it doesn't say Jesus. It says, Iesus, which is pronounced Yeshus, not Jesus.
Whether you write Jesus with an “I” Iesus or you write it with a “J” Jesus, in English it is pronounced JESUS, either way.
I can’t understand why you have a problem with that.
I think you need to ask yourself why don’t you want to call Him Jesus ?
and what kind of spirit is you to want to pervert the only one Name of God which is JESUS ? Why ??
OK, I say it again, it doesn't say Yeshus !
Blind man, you are.
Jesus said, "If you were blind, you would not be guilty of sin; but now that you claim you can see, your guilt remains."
Thanks for making my point.
You're welcome !
Nothing but dead air here ladies and gentlemen. Just move on - Nothing to see.
That's right, anon. Nothing but errors upon errors and many falsehoods, here. Don't read this blog without having the bible next to you.
Nothing to see !!!!!
Well my Anon. friends, then you haven’t read my post yet :-)
Remember, the FALSE brethren ?
Remember, those are the one’s, perhaps just like you who don’t believe in the Lord Jesus Christ.
You may say and think that you believe in the Lord Jesus, but so do all the pagans.
Just read again my post, it’s a perfect picture of your lives :-)
And remember there is always repentance left, without repentance is NO salvation.
Remember the FALSE brethren? Certainly! We see him when we look at you and YOUR writings. The Bible is quite clear who are you are. You’re the wolf in sheep clothing trying to lead the true brethren of Christ away from the Bible.
Yes, the same they said to MY Lord, the Lord Jesus Christ.
John 8:48 The anonymous said to Him, “Do we not rightly say that You are a Samaritan and have a demon ?”
If they said that to my Lord, what do you think that those ‘anonymous’ would say to me ?
Hey Paul, I'm just checking in on you, to see if you were still alive. The Lord reminded me of you, while reading the real Bible during writing of my latest post. I was reading Colossians 1:17. Did I mention it was in the real Bible? It says,
And he is superior to all things and by him all things have come together.
This reveals that the Messiah is now superior to all things, because of his obedience. Also, by his obedience, all the way to the cross, all creation have come together.
I hope you are doing well and I still pray that you will begin to read the real Bible, instead of Man's Word and have a "come to the real Jesus" experience. God Bless.
Hi Keith,
The New American Standard Bible said, Colossians 1:17 “He is before all things, and in Him all things hold together.”
Doesn't that tell you that Jesus Christ is God ?
Only God holds all things together.
Just read it again, “in Him” (written with capital “H”, which means the Lord God the Almighty the creator of heaven and earth). Just read verse 15 - 22.
And no, it wasn't because of obedience. It is because He is the only one God, the creator of heaven and earth.
Look my friend, you need to believe it, or you are wasting your time.
1 Corinthians ch. 15 vw. 26 - 28 gives the answer to any question here.
'26The last enemy to be destroyed is death. 27For “God has put everything under His feet.” Now when it says that everything has been put under Him, this clearly does not include the One who put everything under Him. 28And when all things have been subjected to Him, then the Son Himself will be made subject to Him who put all things under Him, so that God may be all in all.…'
Yes Brenda, that would be true, if you would have eyes to see and a heart to understand.
But because you don’t believe in the Lord Jesus Christ therefore you have neither.
How foolish is that, that God would put anything under the feet of Jesus Christ. What's the point of that ?
Can’t you see it ?
Or don’t you know what metaphoric language is ?
But for you Brenda, if you refuse to believe in the Lord Jesus Christ, the mantle of your ignorance will remain.
I would totally agree with you, Paul, if Colossians 1:17 said that, but it doesn't.
Are you suggesting that I can’t read the ordinary Bible, the 66 Books ?
New American Standard, the King James, the New International and many other Bibles ?
Well Keith, I think it is you who is reading the book of Alibaba and the forty thieves.
But again, you can’t hide behind other writings who say something similar.
Remember, a little leaven leavens the whole lump.
How sad that you do not believe what is written Paul, for that is saying that you do not believe what Jesus is saying. Jesus said that all authority has been given to Him, and that is true. It was given to Him by His Father God. Jesus is not our Father, He was the first of many brethren. He is the express image of God because He is the One mediator between man and God. I am not your judge Paul, that Word is your judge, and I pray that you come to accept the truth of that Word.
Look Brenda, it is so obvious that you do not understand the Scriptures.
And the reason is because you don’t believe in the Lord Jesus Christ, it is as simple as that.
If you are denying the Father to be the Lord Jesus Christ, then your father has to be the devil.
Remember, 1 Cor. 8:6 “Yet for US is but ONE God the Father”, any other father is the devil.
The Lord Jesus Christ made that clear to you in John 8:44.
OK, ONE God the Father !
And if that God and Father is NOT the Lord Jesus Christ, then you are denying the Father and you are claiming another god to be your father, which we know is the devil whom you call Yahweh.
Look Brenda, I have accepted truth which is Jesus Christ John 14:6, but you reject the truth and call the devil the truth by the name of Yahweh.
Even blind Freddy can see that, Brenda.
'yet for us there is but one God, the Father, FROM WHOM all things came and FOR WHOM we live; and there is but one Lord, Jesus Christ, THROUGH whom all things came and THROUGH whom we live.'
Paul, in this verse (1 Corinthians ch.8 v.6) can you not see the difference with From whom and THROUGH whom. Jesus is the MEDIATOR BETWEEN MAN AND GOD, as I have shown to you is written in the scriptures. These verses line up with 1 Corinthians ch. 15 vs.26-28, whereas what you are saying does not.
Yes Brenda, I can fully see what you are saying, I know all those verses by heart and more.
And I also can see the switch in your thinking, from where you have depart from the Lord Jesus Christ every time unto another god you call Yahweh.
It is in that switch where the deception is contained.
“Yet for us is but one God the Father.”
OK. there is no other God but only God the Father.
Yet, we both know that there is another god and father who likes to take the place of the true God and Father, and that is the devil.
Therefore the devil is the master deceiver and the father of all lies who always and without fail switches a word, even from the Bible in order to gain the title ‘God’, the title which belongs to Jesus Christ alone.
Now, the devil does the same with the titles ‘Son’, Lord and Father, in order to gain your worship.
And many have fallen into his snare.
So, what am I saying ?
In simple terms, either the Lord Jesus Christ is God, or the devil is god. Either the Lord Jesus Christ is the Father, or the devil is the father.
Either the Lord Jesus Christ is the Son, or the devil is the son.
Either the Lord Jesus Christ is the ‘Lord’, or the devil is the lord.
Either God’s Name is Jesus Christ, or god’s name is Satan, Yahweh, Allah, Jehovah, Krishna, Buddha etc. etc.
And no Brenda, you can’t be neutral. You WILL worship one or the other.
And neither can you understand the Scriptures till you make a clear decision for the Lord Jesus Christ, otherwise the devil will always switch you over to worship him.
Only after you have decided to believe in the Lord Jesus Christ, the Lord Jesus will lead you into all the truth.
And no Brenda, not before, but after !
The Lord Jesus will know and I will know.
Am I suggesting that you can't read the Bible? No, your own words testify of that, all by itself.
Also, you said, to Brenda, "Only after you have decided to believe in the Lord Jesus Christ, the Lord Jesus will lead you into all the truth.
The Bible, that you declare that you can read, says that it is God's Spirit, The Great Advocate, who will lead us into all truth and testify of Jesus.
Soon the Spirit of Truth comes, to give guidance to all truth... John 16:13
Can you see Brenda ?
Like Keith, he makes the same mistake just like you.
Look, read his comment and see how he separates God away from the Lord Jesus Christ.
He does that all the time, and in everything he says and does.
That’s why the testimony of Keith is NOT true.
He testifies to another god just like you Brenda.
For the same reason, Keith also needs to make a decision for Jesus Christ BEFORE he can and will understand anything of the Spirit of God.
Paul, I believe that you may always put the doctrine of man before the truth of God's Word, and it is that Word that is your judge. Many people have seen, and still are seeing, that you do this. It has been shown in your previous posts.
Well Brenda, if you would believe in God’s Word, which is the Lord Jesus Christ, then you would have given me an ‘amen’.
But as it is, you really don’t believe in the Lord Jesus Christ at all.
Yes Paul, Jesus was the Word of God made flesh, but sadly it is you who do not believe in EVERY WORD that comes out of His mouth. You only believe in SOME of them. I give an 'Amen' to every Word that comes out of the mouth of Jesus, the One mediator between man and God.
Paul,
if I gave an 'Amen' to every word which came out of your mouth I would be believing scripture that has been altered, scripture which has been added to and taken away from.
Paul, I totally agree with Brenda, if you would present the Word of God, I would be one of the first to give you a hearty Amen. However, first and foremost, my allegiance is to God, the God of the Bible.
Also, my friend, we do not separate God from Jesus, a feat that cannot be done. Jesus has the fulness of God dwelling within him, a gift, which is also available to you. You are allowing the false doctrines of Man to skew your understanding.
When we started conversing, I told you that God had supernaturally sent me to you to give you a message. That message is to start from the beginning and purge man's teaching from your heart and rely on God's Spirit to lead you into all truth. That message is still valid. Please take a step back and reevaluate what you are trying to teach others and get back to the Word of God. He continues to call all of us to a close personal relationship. Please answer that call.
Paul, I too would love you to answer the call of God. This is what the call is saying.
John ch. 1 vs. 12-14 states:-
'But to all who did receive Him, to those who believed in His name, He gave the right to become children of God— children born not of blood, nor of the desire or will of man, but born of God. The Word became flesh and made His dwelling among us. We have seen His glory, the glory of the one and only Son from the Father, full of grace and truth.…'
Scripture once again revealing truth. We can only BECOME children of God by believing in Jesus. He was the first of many brethren.
Become our brother Paul.
Brenda, you did NOT receive the Lord Jesus Christ, otherwise, surely you would have told us that in your last comment.
There is NO testimony in your mouth concerning Christ Jesus MY Lord and only God.
You are just like all the pagans who believe that you can BECOME children to Santa Claus because you happen to choose to believe in Santa Claus.
How ironic is that ?
I expected a lot better from you Brenda.
Paul, I received the Spirit of God which Jesus said the Father would send after His crucifixion to lead us into all truth. This I received when I was baptized in water in Adelaide. I came up out of the water speaking in a language I had never learned. The scripture calls it speaking mysteries to God, and immediately my life was changed. I love being in the Lord, and what you say can never change the truth of my experience and situation in the Lord. Perhaps you have not been baptized, I don't know, but all must believe and be baptized to become children of God, and that is not being sprinkled with water as a baby as babies cannot believe before they are old enough to be taught.
Yes Brenda, I know and I have heard your experience numerous times on other blogs and I love to hear it, and I never get tired to listen to it.
It’s great to see and hear the power of the Lord Jesus Christ performing the change in your life.
But what happened to you since, Brenda ?
You have started so wonderful in the Lord Jesus Christ, and what made you turn away from Him to another god ?
Brenda, I too, started with the Lord Jesus Christ and I never turned away from Him. You see, when I met the Lord Jesus Christ face to face, I knew that my Lord is the God and creator of heaven and earth, and turning away from Him is no option.
Yes, I too have been baptised in water and speaking in a new tongue mysteries to God etc.
That is good Paul,
no I have never turned away from Jesus, He is the Word of God made flesh and that Word has been written. If it had not been written then we could not learn and if the Holy Spirit had not been given to us then we could not be led into all truth, as mans' doctrine would be put into our minds by the spiritual enemy - Satan. Jesus was born of God's Spirit, He is the second Adam, and even now some who are born of His Spirit are saying 'Did God really say?' We must not question God's Word this time, we have been given a second chance.
Paul, the Word of God is the Creative Word that flows from God’s mouth. The Word of God spoke, during Creation and all things manifested, came into being. In the same way, the Word of God spoke to Mary and the Son of God manifested, within her womb. Within the Son, the Fulness of God dwells. Jesus lived a perfect life and gave his life, a ransom for all mankind. He rose again and ascended to the right hand of God, our Father. That, my friend, is the good news. Come to Jesus and be saved. Be baptized and receive the Spirit of God.
Brenda, you said, “no I have never turned away from Jesus.”
Look Brenda, you must really think that I am stupid don’t you ?
But not only I, even blind Freddy can see that you have turned to another god, and that is faaar AWAY from the Lord your God Jesus Christ.
Tell me Brenda, what is that other god doing in your life ?
Yes that other god whom you call Yahweh, who’s name is NOT even mentioned in the Bible.
Just like Eve in the garden of Eden, so you have been lead astray to serve the devil.
That is serious Brenda !
Look Brenda, I am NOT against you, don’t ever think that at any time, but I am FOR you.
There is only a NARROW door left for you to return to the one who bought you with the price of His blood, Jesus Christ the Lord.
So therefore do not look to the left nor to the right but let your gaze be fixed on the author of life Jesus Christ and enter through that narrow door which only few will find.
Make it simple Keith, so that we all know what you're talking about. Otherwise it sounds just like gobbledegook.
Simply, the Word is Jesus Christ, and He in the beginning said, let there be light etc. etc.
Not only did He spoke, He also took some mud, dirt and made Adam in His image etc. etc.
All that did the Lord Jesus Christ DO, because He ALONE is God and NO OTHER !
Remember any other is the devil, or Satan who became the god of this world (2 Corinthians 4:4).
And for that reason it is easy to believe ONLY in the Lord Jesus Christ.
Satan became the god of this world because people believe in him and worship him.
But he is certainly NOT a true god, but only a liar and a deceiver and an impostor who loves the adoration and worship from the ignorant.
Keith, God is only CALLED the Son of God because of His incarnation. But the Lord Jesus Christ is CERTAINLY nobody's son as you presume.
He is the only begotten Son of God, the only one of a kind, which means that God became flesh (incarnation) Immanuel God with us.
And no, the Lord Jesus Christ is not a ransom for all mankind as you have said.
If the Lord Jesus would have been a ransom for all mankind, then ALL mankind would belong to Jesus Christ. But as it is, some belong to their father the devil (John 8:44), and the Lord Jesus Christ did NOT pay any ransom blood for the devil and his children.
You said, “He rose again and ascended to the right hand of God, our Father.”
Well, what does that mean to you my friend ?
Does that mean to you, that one god ascended to the right hand of another god, which you call your father ?
Yes, we both know that you believe that satanic deception; and for this reason you need to repent from believing in your false god, and then turn to Jesus Christ and be saved.
Your idea of making it simple allows you to ignore scripture in order to promote your false doctrine.
Paul, Show me where incarnation appears in the bible. Let me help you. Nowhere.
As for Jesus being a ransom, please look in Ephesians 1:7, 1 Peter 1:18-19 and my favorite, where Jesus, himself said he was a ransom, Matthew 20:28.
As for Jesus ascending to the right hand of the Father. It means exactly what it says. The Bible is really good at that. It says exactly what it means to say. In your world, God ascends to his own right hand and makes intercession between man and another called God. No Paul, your doctrine doesn't jive with the Bible.
I'm sorry, I totally forgot 1 Timothy 1:5-6
For there is one God and one mediator between God and mankind, the man Christ Jesus, who gave himself as a ransom for all people.
Hi anonymous,
Yes Paul's idea of making it simple does allows him to ignore scripture in order to promote his false doctrine, but it also allows those who read to see how false his doctrine is when they compare it to scripture.
No Anonymous, I do not ignore the Scriptures.
I have been a disciple of the Lord Jesus Christ for 39 years, and I have been walking very closely with my Lord; and by that time I ought to know the Scriptures by heart.
Well, I always say, that I can do better than to know the Scriptures, because I personally know the author of the Scriptures.
The Scriptures are written for you, the ignorant, for those who don’t know God, but not for me.
Keith, (1 Timothy 2:5-6) verse 6. “who gave Himself as a ransom for ALL, the testimony given at the proper time.”
It doesn't say ‘ALL PEOPLE !’
All people would mean all people in the whole world, and Jesus did not laid down His life for ALL PEOPLE in the world.
Jesus laid down His life for ALL His children, those who belong to Him, and NOT for Satan’s children the reprobates.
(John 10:11) Jesus laid down His life for the SHEEP ! obviously NOT for the wolves.
You said, “As for Jesus ascending to the right hand of the Father. It means exactly what it says.”
Wake up my friend from your slumber.
And THINK !
Jesus Christ IS the Father, therefore it was written metaphorically.
The Lord God the creator of heaven and earth Jesus Christ does NOT and can NOT sit at the right hand of someone else.
John ch. 10 vs. 14-18 states:-
'I am the good shepherd; I know my sheep and my sheep know me— just as the Father knows me and I know the Father—and I lay down my life for the sheep. I have other sheep that are not of this sheep pen. I must bring them also. They too will listen to my voice, and there shall be one flock and one shepherd. The reason my Father loves me is that I lay down my life—only to take it up again. No one takes it from me, but I lay it down of my own accord. I have authority to lay it down and authority to take it up again. This command I received from my Father.'
Hmm....looks like two separate beings are being spoken about here. Surely if Jesus was just speaking about Himself He would not use the word 'Father', but simply say 'I'.
I'm sorry Paul. I really thought that "ALL" meant the same in all languages. Of course, I'm being sacrcastic. Of course, it means the same. ALL means ALL, not a select few.
Also, I saw that you conveniently overlooked the "MAN Jesus" part. Paul, please read the scriptures, for what is there, not what you think is there.
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Yes, I agree anonymous. Paul ignores scripture because it gets in the way of his beliefs. Please pray for him to look at the scriptures for what it says, not what he wants them to say. I'm a firm believer that God will guide him into the truth. I just hopes he follows as God leads.
Will pray for Paul as I do for all the lost sheep.
Yes Brenda, to the ignorant surely it looks like TWO separate beings.
Perhaps I should say, to the ignorant surely it looks like two separate GODS.
Yes, that is where your sin is Brenda, you are believing in TWO separate GODS !
TWO separate GODS Brenda !
From here on you surely you will ADD a THIRD GOD the the Scriptures.
All pagans do that, just like you, they all believe in the gods of the Roman catholic christian church.
And for that reason she is called the harlot in the Bible; actually, she is called the MOTHER of every harlot church just like your church. They ALL having a very close relationship with their TWO GODS and three gods and four gods etc.
Keith,
I’m sure my friend, “ALL” does not mean ALL MANKIND.
But only to the ignorant with absolutely NO understanding, it means all mankind.
Perhaps just as the Lord Jesus Christ has told you in (Jeremiah 4:22).
How can I reason with you, if you don’t know that ?
ALL does NOT mean ALL MANKIND ! Not unless stated in the Bible.
And I did NOT forget the “MAN”, blind Freddy knows that God became a MAN Jesus Christ. It is Jesus Christ the MAN who created you (a MAN) in the beginning in HIS IMAGE. Yes YOU ! and not Brenda.
And don’t always ADD a word to the Scriptures like “for all “PEOPLE”, when it doesn't say it in the Scriptures.
Hmm, where is all my opposition ? :-(
False Teachers, False Prophets, False Brethren.
What they ALL have in common is, they are False !
No matter what they are saying, they are False !
No matter how they rearrange their doctrines, they are False.
The Bible calls them the False Brethren.
If they teach, they are called False teachers, if they prophesy, they are called False prophets.
They ALL without exception have one thing in common; THEIR GOD is NOT the Lord Jesus Christ alone, and for that reason they are called the False Brethren.
For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus;
I don't think we should remove the words 'and One Mediator' from the scriptures Paul.
Oh NO Brenda, you should NEVER remove any words from the Bible, that is the Word of God.
But you should remove your interpretation !
For it is in your interpretation where your deception is.
Remember the False teachers, “They ALL without exception have one thing in common, THEIR GOD is NOT the Lord Jesus Christ alone, and for that reason they are called the False Brethren.”
Jesus is not my God, Jesus is my Lord and it is God the Father Who made Jesus my Lord. Jesus calls God His Father and I call God my Father.
As for where all your opposition is, it is in your carnal mind. It is the enemy Satan, it is he who is smiling because he has won you over to his side.
Oh yes Brenda, I knew that all the time that Jesus is not your God.
That’s where we have the difference between you and me.
You don’t belong to Jesus Christ, you belong to your god the devil or Satan.
Remember, I have been telling you that there is NO middle ground, either you belong to Jesus or you belong to the devil.
But since you belong to the devil (by your own admission), the devil won't let you go that easily.
Oh, in fact, NEVER !
He always finds a Scripture to hold you in his bond, just so that you never come to close to the Lord of Glory Jesus Christ. Only in Jesus Christ will you be free indeed.
Look Brenda, perhaps, lock yourself in your closet, kneel down before the Lord Jesus Christ and ask Him to be your Lord and your ONLY God and whatever else you want to ask Him.
But don’t start to instruct the Lord.
If you humbly ask Him, He might receive you.
No more to be said Paul,
it is not your word I believe and trust in, it is the Word of God, Jesus, Whom God the Father has made my Lord. Interaction with you has become very boring Paul because you keep saying the same thing, which is against what that Word says.
Brenda, I am an ambassador of Jesus Christ; if you do NOT believe me, then you don’t believe the one I am representing, which is the Lord God Jesus Christ.
Brenda, you are WILFULLY ignorant for not believing in the Lord Jesus Christ.
Romans 9:5 “the CHRIST according to the flesh, who is over all, God blessed forever. Amen.” So be it !
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Y’ Shua said, “ I am the Word Manifested.” ... “I Am The truth, the Way and the Life. No one comes to the Father but through me.“
Paul, you need to read the Word of God, for what it says not what you want it to say. I will continue to pray for you as I have promised for I am a faithful servant of Yahweh, whose name is proclaimed as God Almighty, El Shaddai, over 6000 times in His Word, through his Son, Our Lord, Y’shua.
Can you see Brenda, your enemy tries to lead you away from Jesus Christ to his god the devil by quoting (John 14:6).
Jesus said, “no one ‘COMES’ to the Father”, implying that He is the Father, Jesus did NOT say no one ‘GOES’ to the Father, if the the Father would be someone else.
Jesus said, “I and the Father are ONE,” and NOT TWO as Keith is saying.
Well Brenda, the old devil always uses the old lies from way back, you need to believe Jesus who said that the devil is the father of lies, he was a liar from the beginning.
Just believe what Scripture said.
Romans 9:5 “the CHRIST according to the flesh, who is over all, God blessed forever. Amen.” So be it !
The Scripture does say, according to the FLESH Jesus is all over, “GOD” blessed forever and ever and ever and ever. Amen. So be it !
As it is with ALL false Brethren, even though they can read in the Bible that Jesus is ‘GOD’ (Romans 9:5).
But they ALL are willingly ignorant, not that they cannot read the Scriptures, but they choose to be willingly ignorant.
They always remove the Lord Jesus Christ from the domain of God and replace Him with another god called Jehovah or Yahweh etc.
And for this reason they are called the FALSE BRETHREN.
1 John 4:1
"1 Dear friends, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, because many false prophets have gone out into the world.
1 John 4:2-3
2 This is how you recognise the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesses that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is from God,
3 but every spirit that does not confess Jesus is not from God. This is the spirit of antichrist, which you have heard is coming and even now is already in the world.
(v. 2) Can you see, Every spirit that confesses “JESUS”, has come in the flesh is from God.
And NOT those who confess Y’shua and Tom, Dick and Harry.
(v. 3) Every spirit that confesses Y’shua, Tom, Dick and Harry is the spirit of the antichrist, which is already in the world and in all the False Brethren.
That is because the spirit of the antichrist don’t want anyone to believe that God came in the flesh of JESUS Christ.
It is as simple as that :-)
One day, the Lord and his Angels were walking about the world...and they looked and saw a man, talking to himself.
"Who is that man?", they asked.
The Lord responded. "It is a man, who has an evil spirit."
The Angels inquired, "Can he be saved?"
Jesus said, "Not at this time, for he has to want to be saved. As for now, he is wallowing in his false self importance."
We will send him a messenger, from the Most High. We will see if he continues, in his evil ways or respond.
Hi Sh’ma Y’srael Goyim, thank you for your comment.
As an ambassador of the MOST High God the Lord Jesus Christ of Nazareth, I would like to say, that is a nice story :-)
Who has told you that story ?
Surely NOT from the Bible, the 66 books ?
Hmmm, let’s look at your story.
Please tell me, who is that “Lord” in your story ?
Is that the little Lord Fauntleroy ?
Has he got a name ?
And who is that “Jesus” who said, “not at this time” ?
Is that the little lord Jesus who will send a messenger from the Most High ?
And does that Most High have a NAME ?
Or is he an UNKNOWABLE god ?
I hope you can smell that that story stinks.
Yes, I might wallow in my FALSE SELF IMPORTANCE.
And you, you might wallow in your TRUE SELF IMPORTANCE.
You're a riot. All you know how to do is argue. Have you ever reasoned with someone or do you not know how?
You're a riot. All you know how to do is argue and insult people. Have you ever reasoned with someone or do you not know how? How you act and respond to people genuinely reflects your true soul and spirit.
That is right Anonymous,
the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, forbearance, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness and self-control.
We must every one of us test ourselves to see if we have this in us, and if we fall short of any of them we must repent and change our ways.
Arguing and insisting that one is right when it goes against scripture is not of the Holy Spirit. Discussion is different, and humbles and teaches us when we admit that we got it wrong and change our ways according to what that Word says.
Anonymous, I think you are confusing reasoning with flattering.
In case it has escaped you, I am a truth proclaimer, or an ambassador, and an ambassador TELLS you the truth about the King and His kingdom.
An ambassador does not need to learn from an outsider, otherwise the outsider would be the ambassador.
Can you understand that ?
Now, how I speak, that depends on my opponent.
Remember, I am mindful of every careless word I am speaking, and you are not my judge.
My judge is my Father the Lord Jesus Christ and He has loved me from the beginning, before He created the world. Therefore I speak what He tells me to say to you and to anyone else.
Well, you may don’t like it, that’s possible, but you have heard it, and therefore you are without excuse.
Well Brenda, do you really think that I am going to practice all that stuff you have mentioned; Brenda, Brenda, you amaze me :-)
Don’t you know, when you love the Lord MY God Jesus Christ with all your heart and with all your mind and with all your strength, then all the rest is included.
How come that you don’t know those things ?
Have I failed my test ?
After I have been talking to you for so many years ?
I think we need to go right back to the FIRST step Brenda.
You need to throw your other god, the one you call Yahweh in the rubbish bin. And then turn to the Lord Jesus Christ and serve Him ONLY, worship Him ONLY and love Him ONLY, and believe Him ONLY.
You see, it is that simple !
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Paul, You are such a dork. I came over to see if you have changed any. Nope. You're still the same ungodly hack you've ever been. I know for a fact that Jesus doesn't want you to act this way.
Brenda, well said, girl. I feel that I have got most of the fruits of the spirit that you listed above handled but I know I'm not perfect. But everytime I come to Pauls blog I see nothing but anti-spirit anti-Christ anti-love. He definitely has no self control.
Anonymous, why don't you go to Brendas or Keiths blogs. There is so much truth and God's love there. I can also give you more sites than this one. This one is such garbage. It cannot be of God. At least not the one and only true God. Maybe the god of this world.
Chris, I believe you are right concerning Paul being anti-Spirit, anti-Christ and anti-love, and I too am not perfect. If we claim to love Jesus, then we would love God and love one another. To exclude God from our lives would be excluding all that is good from our lives. For only God is good, as Jesus says in Mark ch. 10 vs.17 and 18:-
'As Jesus started on His way, a man ran up and knelt before Him. “Good Teacher,” he asked, “what must I do to inherit eternal life?” “Why do you call Me good?” Jesus replied. “No one is good except God alone.'
This scripture is proof that Paul does not believe what Jesus says.
Chris, every Christian devil in the likes of you has said the same to MY Lord and my God Jesus Christ.
If they have said that to Him, what shall I expect from you ?
And how do you know how Jesus wants me to act ?
So you FEEL that you have the fruits of the spirit ?
Tell me, where do you FEEL that ?
Do you FEEL that in your stomach ? or on your elbow ?
I’m glad that you write “spirit” with a little “s”, so we know what spirit you are of.
If I don’t trust my feelings, how on earth would anyone trust in your feelings.
Every liar and deceiver FEELS that he is a good person, how then would I trust your FEELINGS. You have to be kidding.
And which God do you know ? do you also FEEL that you know God ?
In the day of judgement, the Lord Jesus does not ask, how do you FEEL.
Brenda, ‘No one is good except God alone’, then that God is the Lord Jesus Christ who alone is good.
That excludes your god Yahweh.
How can it be Jesus Paul if Jesus said 'Why do you call me good, only God is good.'
That is Jesus Who is questioning someone calling Him good, and saying that only God is good.
Do you understand the English language Paul? If someone was to call me 'good' and I said that only my father is 'good' then I would be saying that I am not good but my father is the only one who is 'good'.
It is as plain as it can be in the scriptures and is verified by many other scriptures.
I love the way that the Devil's lies can not prove themselves true in the scriptures. Our God is greater, and so is His Son to Whom He gave all authority on earth. Jesus is the One mediator between man and God, and it is only through His sacrifice that we have obtained access to everlasting life. Praise His lovely name - Y'shua 'Yahweh saves'. Just as we have to have a passport to access another country, we had to have the 'Sacrificial Lamb' come into the world to enable us to eternal life.
Brenda, you said, “If someone was to call me 'good' and I said that only my father is 'good' then I would be saying that I am not good but my father is the only one who is 'good'.”
Yes Brenda that is exactly what you are saying, that JESUS is NOT GOOD and that He is not the Father and that He is not God and that He is not, and that he is not, and that he is not etc.
Can you see, you don’t believe anything the Lord Jesus said.
You don’t believe that Jesus is good, you believe that another one is good.
You don’t believe that Jesus is the Father, you believe that another one is your father.
You don’t believe that Jesus is God, you believe that another one is your god, one who is not even mentioned in the Bible.
Well Brenda, I would not believe in a “Jesus” like that either.
I would throw that “Jesus” in the rubbish bin and then believe in the Lord Jesus Christ of Nazareth, Immanuel the creator of heaven and earth, who ALONE is good.
No Paul, I am saying exactly what Jesus said WRITTEN IN THE SCRIPTURES.
Once again Paul, if you read the scriptures, this is what Jesus said:-
WHY DO YOU CALL ME GOOD, ONLY GOD IS GOOD' The reason He said this is because the only GOOD in Jesus and in us is the Spirit of God. Jesus had to learn obedience. Hebrews ch. 5 vs.7-9 states:-
'During the days of Jesus’ life on earth, he offered up prayers and petitions with fervent cries and tears to the one who could save him from death, and he was heard because of his reverent submission. Son though he was, he learned obedience from what he suffered and, once made perfect, he became the source of eternal salvation for all who obey him'
It looks like you are saying that you will throw this Jesus that is written as saying these words in the rubbish bin. You are answerable to Him, not me.
Brenda, I am saying exactly what Jesus said WRITTEN IN THE SCRIPTURES.
Once again Brenda, if you read the scriptures, this is what Jesus said.
“WHY DO YOU CALL ME GOOD, ONLY GOD IS GOOD.”
Brenda, that is what Jesus said. And NOT YOU !
You said something completely different.
You tear the Lord Jesus down from the position of GOD, and demote Him to a mere man, a sinner like you and me.
This is the reason why you are not acceptable to the Lord my ONLY God Jesus Christ.
“Revelation 1:8 “I am the Alpha and the Omega says the Lord God, who is and who was and who is to come, the Almighty.”
Is that the Lord Jesus ? Brenda
Then you better call the Lord Jesus GOOD.
Paul,
there is no need to continue this conversation. Anyone reading all these comments can plainly see that you make yourself look foolish by what you are saying all the time. That is probably why you get no other people leaving comments on your blog.
Yes Brenda, everyone can plainly see that you are believing in a false God and call the Lord Jesus Christ NOT GOOD, just the same like you and me.
“Revelation 1:8 “I am the Alpha and the Omega says the Lord God, who is and who was and who is to come, the Almighty.”
Is that the Lord Jesus Christ, Brenda ?
Then you better call Him GOOD.
It is WRITTEN, ‘ONLY GOD is GOOD’, and all men are liars.
Brenda, “Revelation 1:8 “I am the Alpha and the Omega says the Lord God, who is and who was and who is to come, the Almighty.”
In case it has escaped you, my foolish writing is the testimony of Jesus Christ.
“I am the Alpha and Omega says the Lord God (Jesus Christ), who is and who was and who is to come, THE ALMIGHTY.”
Yes Brenda, read it again, it is the LORD GOD THE ALMIGHTY Jesus Christ of Nazareth who is speaking, the one you don’t want to call the “ONLY GOOD GOD”.
You would rather call your god Yahweh ‘the only GOOD god’.
But, your god Yahweh is nowhere mentioned or written in the Bible, no NOT even once Brenda.
This is how you and most so called "Christians" promoting false doctrines, doctrines of devils who even denying the deity of Jesus Christ.
The revelation from Jesus Christ, WHICH GOD GAVE HIM to show his servants what must soon take place. He made it known by sending his angel to his servant John, who testifies to everything he saw—that is, THE WORD OF GOD AND THE TESTIMONY OF JESUS CHRIST.
Revelation ch. 1 v.1
Notice Paul, there are two spoken of here.
No Brenda, the Scripture said, “The Revelation ‘OF’ Jesus Christ”, and not what you have said, “The revelation ‘from’ Jesus Christ”.
Jesus Christ is speaking, “I am the Alpha and the Omega says the LORD GOD, who is and who was and who is to come, the ALMIGHTY. I am the first and the last, and the living One; and I was dead, and behold, I am alive forevermore,” (Rev. 1:8+ 17-18)
That is the Lord Jesus Christ speaking Brenda.
It amazes me, that you do not believe one word the Lord Jesus Christ has said.
Look Brenda, there is NO shortcut, you are in desperate need of repentance, and then commit your life to the Lord Jesus Christ and believe only in Him.
Whether the interpretation says 'of' or 'from' it is still saying that Jesus revealed you can not take away the fact that it says God gave Him this revelation.
Revelation ch. 1 v.18 Jesus is actually saying that He was dead. This is the difference between the flesh and the Spirit. Jesus was resurrected because He was born of the Spirit of God. He was the first born of the Spirit. God is that Spirit that Jesus was born of and the Spirit that we must be born of to become a child of God. Jesus has been given all authority on earth and in Heaven. Who gave Him that authority? God did.
Satan and his lies will never win when we search the scriptures to see if what is said is true, just as the Bereans did.
Actually, there isn't any word between 'Revelation' and 'Jesus Christ', in Revelation 1:1. It's implied.
The true Word for Word Translation goes like this.
The Revelation unto Y'shua the Messiah, which Yah gave him to show his bond servants, that which is necessary, in a short period of time, to appear in history, in order, made known by his angel, unto his bond servant, John.
Four major things here are:
1. It is a Revelation, that God gave to Y'shua/Jesus.
2. It is necessary, in God's plan, to begin or start within a short period of time, in history.
3. It is in order. It is laid out sequentially, one event after another.
4. Finally, who is revealing this message or who will be primarily talking to John? An Angel, a Messenger of Yah, not Y'shua/Jesus.
Verse 2 of Revelation ch. 1 is interestingly speaking of Both the Father and the Son too:-
'who testifies to everything he saw—that is, the word of God and the testimony of Jesus Christ.'
Yes!!!!! Let's go a little further, in verse six, of chapter one.
...and made us kingdom priests of his God and Father. Unto the same, be Glory and Mighty Power forever and ever. Amen!
Notice, "...his God and Father." There's no way to get around the fact that there is a Jesus and there is a God. There's no way to get around the fact that there is a Jesus and he has a God. Ignoring this fact, which is shown over and over and over and over and over and over again, within the scriptures, would be tantamount to sticking your head into the ground.
Brenda, it seems to me that you don’t want to read PROPER English.
JESUS is speaking.
“I am the Alpha and the Omega says the LORD GOD, who is and who was and who is to come, the ALMIGHTY. I am the first and the last, and the living One; and I was dead, and behold, I am alive forevermore,” (Rev. 1:8+ 17-18)
Now, does that say to you that there is another LORD and GOD next to the Lord Jesus Christ ?
The spirit that you have received is NOT the Spirit of God, Brenda.
The Spirit of God CAN say Jesus is Lord, but the spirit that you have received CAN NOT say Jesus is the LORD.
Brenda, that’s IMPOSSIBLE !
Keith, read my lips, THERE IS NO Y’SHUA IN THE BIBLE !
In the Bible there is only Jesus who is the Christ, He is the Lord God the ALMIGHTY alone and He does NOT share ‘DEITY’ with another.
I know that you are working overtime to destroy the Name of the only God JESUS Christ of the Bible, and trying to introduce another name in order to bring confusion.
But that is NOT so with me, my friend :-)
Remember, I am the ambassador of JESUS Christ.
And, you do the same with the Word of God the BIBLE, the 66 books.
You are quoting from another book and trying to amalgamate the two, in order to bring confusion.
But that is NOT so with me, my friend :-)
Remember, I am the ambassador of Jesus Christ and His Kingdom and of His Word the BIBLE, the 66 books.
You said, “1. It is a Revelation, that God gave to Y'shua/Jesus.”
Keith, WHERE is that WRITTEN ?
Did you get that from the book of Alibaba and the forty thieves ?
Or do you make up stories on the run ?
In order to bring confusion ?
I am NOT confused my friend ! :-)
Please stay on subject and I'll try not to use, Y'shua, the real name of our savior, for your sake.
You keep saying the same thing and refuse to address the issue. In verse 1, it says,
The Revelation unto Jesus Christ, which God gave him to show his bond servants, that which is necessary, in a short period of time, to appear in history, in order, made known by his angel, unto his bond servant, John.
Then in verse six, it says,
...and made us kingdom priests of his God and Father. Unto the same, be Glory and Mighty Power forever and ever. Amen!
Notice, "...his God and Father." There's no way to get around the fact that there is a Jesus and there is a God. There's no way to get around the fact that there is a Jesus and he has a God. Ignoring this fact, which is shown over and over and over and over and over and over again, within the scriptures, would be tantamount to sticking your head into the ground.
Answer those questions first and then we'll then approach your misreading of Rev 1:8 and 1:17-18.
No Keith, Y’shua is NOT his real name, otherwise the Bible would say so.
His Name is ‘JESUS’ who is the Christ.
And NOT for my sake, but for everyone’s sake.
And the BIBLE does NOT say, ‘The Revelation UNTO Jesus Christ’.
For God did NOT give any Revelation TO JESUS who is the Christ.
The Lord Jesus Christ is the ALMIGHTY God.
And the ALMIGHTY GOD doesn’t give Revelation to Himself, He gives Revelation to all His saints.
But NOT to you and to Brenda, because, both of you are unbelievers.
Yes, Jesus gave the Revelation to John, but not only to John, He also gave it to me, otherwise I would be wasting my time talking to you.
As for you and Brenda, you both have NO Revelation of Jesus Christ at all.
Brenda, it seems to me that you don’t want to read PROPER English.
JESUS is speaking.
“I am the Alpha and the Omega says the LORD GOD, who is and who was and who is to come, the ALMIGHTY. I am the first and the last, and the living One; and I was dead, and behold, I am alive forevermore,” (Rev. 1:8+ 17-18)
Now, does that say to you that there is another LORD and GOD next to the Lord Jesus Christ ?
The spirit that you have received is NOT the Spirit of God, Brenda.
The Spirit of God CAN say ‘Jesus is Lord’, but the spirit that you have received CAN NOT say Jesus is the LORD.
Brenda, that’s IMPOSSIBLE !
So, you’re going to ignore even your English Bible, for it says the same thing, that God gave it to him?
Brenda, Revelation 22:16 "I JESUS, have sent my angel to testify to YOU, 'YES Brenda TO YOU !' these things for the churches. I am the root and the descendant of David, the bright morning star."
Please read what the Spirit says after :-)
I have Paul,
and you must too, because it says what God will do, if we add or take away from these testimonies. You keep adding and taking away Paul, so take heed of what it says there.
...and there's our answer, ladies and gentlemen. Paul will ignore what's even written in his flawed English translation in order to perpetuate his man made doctrine. Honestly, who does that remind you of? Yep, I agree. Paul's the spitting image of his father.
I think the only thing I can say Keith, sadly, is 'I agree with you regarding who Paul is the spitting image of.' It has been his choice. However, God's Word can not go out and come back void to Him, so maybe one day Paul will believe every Word that is written.
Hey Brenda, That has always been my hope and prayer. You are so correct that it has been his choice and his choice alone. In the end, he won't be able to blame it on an apparition, that appeared to him. It'll hold no water. Sad, Sad Indeed.
Keith and Brenda, so then, you both DON’T believe the plain Scriptures ?
That amazes me :-)
Even though the Lord Jesus tells you in plain words, and you just ignore Him ?
Brenda Brenda, or perhaps I should say Keith Keith.
Let's read again, (Rev. 1:8+17-18) “I am the Alpha and the Omega says the LORD GOD, who is and who was and who is to come, the ALMIGHTY. I am the first and the last, and the living One; and I was dead, and behold, I am alive forevermore,”
And you still think that is Yahweh who is speaking ?
Well my friends, you are trying hard to be WILFULLY ignorant, or perhaps should I say like the Lord Jesus said in Jeremiah 4:22 “For MY people are foolish, They know Me NOT; They are a STUPID children, and have no understanding.”
I think the Lord Jesus Christ couldn't have said it better than that.
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Paul,
have you ignored this part of Revelation ch. 1 vs.4-6:-
'John,
To the seven churches in the province of Asia:
Grace and peace to you from him who is, and who was, and who is to come, and from the seven spirits before his throne, and from Jesus Christ, who is the faithful witness, the firstborn from the dead, and the ruler of the kings of the earth.
To him who loves us and has freed us from our sins by his blood, and has made us to be a kingdom and priests to serve his God and Father—to him be glory and power for ever and ever! Amen.'
Whoever checks what Paul has said regarding God the Father and Jesus the Son will see that he denies what most of scripture says. That is just like putting seventy five pieces of a jigsaw puzzle together when there are one hundred pieces that form the whole picture.
Do you see that it says that Jesus 'made us to be a kingdom and priests to serve his God and Father.'
We are a kingdom and priests to serve Jesus' God and Father.
Once again I will remind you that Jesus was the Son of God, God's Word made flesh but born of God's Spirit.
That’s exactly what you are doing Brenda.
You don’t acknowledge the SCRIPTURES, where Jesus said that He IS the LORD GOD the ALMIGHTY (Rev. 1:8).
You PRESENT ANOTHER god YAHWEH in His place, the antichrist, who has taken the place of ‘GOD’ in your life.
Not only that, you do NOT even believe the Prophets of God (Isaiah 9:6) that Jesus IS the EVERLASTING FATHER.
Jesus the everlasting Father !
You rather give that glory and TITLE Father to your god the antichrist Yahweh, of which we both know is the devil or Satan.
In fact, you believe absolutely nothing of the Scriptures.
That’s a shame Brenda.
Once again I need to remind you that Jesus is NOT the son of your god Yahweh, Jesus is NOBODY'S son !
Jesus IS the Lord God the Almighty, and the Lord God the Almighty surely is NOBODY’S son.
If you would believe the Scriptures (Mat. 1:23) “Behold the virgin shall be with child and shall bear a SON, and they shall CALL His Name Immanuel, which means, God with us."
Now, read my lips Brenda, JESUS IS THE LORD GOD THE ALMIGHTY and He is certainly NOBODY’S son, He is only CALLED the Son of God.
Paul, It's God that is speaking in verse 8 and Y'shua speaking in 18 and 19. You want Jesus to be God so much that you are willing to ignore the rest of the chapter, to make your point.
AFter hearing all of this I might be turning into an atheist. This is some of the most strangest conversations I have ever heard. You all talk in circles. I wouldn't want to believe in any of your gods at all. The way you all talk to each other is ridiculous. Anyone reading this with any doubts would be pushed away from ever believing at all.
Well Keith, if you would believe that Jesus Christ is God, then you would throw your OTHER god in the rubbish bin.
(v.8) it is God the Almighty Jesus Christ who is speaking, and NOT somebody who is called Y’shua.
Anonymous, are you indicating that you are believing in a god ?
Is it ONE or TWO or THREE gods, or in how many gods do you believe ?
You don’t need to pretend that you believe in a god, since every devil believes in a god.
You need to give us the name of your god ?
No Anonymous,
people are not pushed away from hearing about the truth. Christian blogs are basically discussions amongst believers regarding the Bible. Many who come over to this blog who are not believers would be able to search the scriptures for themselves if they wished to.
When I used to go into the streets for about thirty five years or so with leaflets that I put together containing poetry and scripture, many people who would not go to churches still wanted to know about Jesus. That is why I write a blog for Christians who know Jesus, and those who maybe do not:- http://fatherithankyouforjesus.blogspot.com/
However, I do think that your comment has verified what I have been thinking, that it is time to finish commenting on this blog as there is no more to say here - whether to believers or non believers. Enough has been said for all to see, and you are right - we are just going round in circles. I think without me and Keith commenting here nobody else would.
Anonymous, I really didn't think anyone came to this blog, anymore. I do apologize for our messiness. Brenda and I and others have been trying to fight the spirit that possess' the writher of this blog. Regardless of your feelings for us, I would hope that you would investigate the Bible for yourself, to reveal that's where the truth lies. Do not judge the Word of God, because of us. Unfortunately, for those in the trenches, the battle rages on. If your interested, please come to our sites, for a for congenial conversation. May God Bless You, my friend and your wife and cats. :-)
I have asked the question numerous times, WHO is that who is speaking in this passage ?
(Rev. 1:8+17-18) “I am the Alpha and the Omega says the LORD GOD, who is and who was and who is to come, the ALMIGHTY. I am the first and the last, and the living One; and I was dead, and behold, I am alive forevermore,”
And no one could give me a plain answer to my question.
Keith tried to answer that question, saying, “...and there's our answer, ladies and gentlemen. Paul will ignore what's even written in his flawed English translation in order to perpetuate his man made doctrine. Honestly, who does that remind you of? Yep, I agree. Paul's the spitting image of his father.”
Can you see, Keith does NOT believe in the Bible !
He tries his best to discredit the WORD of GOD the Bible.
Also he said, “The Revelation unto Y'shua the Messiah, which Yah gave him to show his bond servants, that which is necessary, in a short period of time, to appear in history, in order, made known by his angel, unto his bond servant, John.”
Can you see, the Bible doesn't say that kind of nonsense.
I have a few Bibles in front of me, and in NOT ONE of those Bibles says that kind of nonsense.
But he insist that I should read the BIBLE.
Furthermore Keith said, “Paul, It's God that is speaking in verse 8 and Y'shua speaking in 18 and 19. You want Jesus to be God so much that you are willing to ignore the rest of the chapter, to make your point.”
God AND Y’shua ?
Well, that says it all. Doesn’t it ?
Not one of those infidels can give me a reasonable answer to my question.
That amazes me.
Not even Brenda is willing to give me a simple answer to my question, WHO is that speaking in this passage ?
(Rev. 1:8+17-18) “I am the Alpha and the Omega says the LORD GOD, who is and who was and who is to come, the ALMIGHTY. I am the first and the last, and the living One; and I was dead, and behold, I am alive forevermore,”
She always said, “have you ignored this part of Revelation ch. 1 vs.4-6:-”
Did I ignored that ? NO !
She ignored my question.
All false Brethren hate when the Lord Jesus Christ calls Himself “the Lord God the Almighty”.
For this reason they gnashed their teeth at Him and wanted to kill Him.
And what do you think they would do and say to His Ambassador ?
Is a servant greater than His Master ?
Well, "Paul", I do believe in God. But after reading alot of your blog I can tell you that your ideas are wierd so I do not believe in your god. And if I was an atehist I would not want your god. It seems like your god is just a man who is limited but somehow is also at the same time unilimted. How is that God?
Brenda, if I didn't believe and came here I wouldn't see any truth here. There's like 9 people here and there are nine different views. Maybe your blog is different so I will check it out.
Keith, I don't get it. Are you calling me the crazy cat woman who lives down the street? That was weird to say. You didn't say that to the other anonyomus people.
What you need to do is welcome people with love that we are supposed to share. I guess I shgouldn't judge but the feelings I was getting reading these kind of upset me. And I got lost alot.
But I probably will not come back here. It's too confusing.
Anonymous, so then, your are believing in a god.
And why couldn't you give us his name, the name of your god ?
Remember I have asked you.
I think that you couldn't see any truth even if you fell over it.
Anonymous, I apologize. I didn't mean offensive anything by the "wife and cats" comment. Your writing style is so much like an old friend of mine, that I assume it was him. Again, my apologies. With that said, I'm curious, why would you pick the part out, out of all that I said to you? Also, are you the same anonymous from earlier in the comments? Finally, I re-read the comments. It appears to me that everyone is commenting the same point, except Paul, that Jesus is not the Father. What are your thoughts? Again, I'm sorry if I offended you in any way.
I have asked the question numerous times, WHO is that who is speaking in this passage ?
(Rev. 1:8+17-18) “I am the Alpha and the Omega says the LORD GOD, who is and who was and who is to come, the ALMIGHTY. I am the first and the last, and the living One; and I was dead, and behold, I am alive forevermore,”
And no one could give me a plain answer to my question.
Keith tried to answer that question, saying, “...and there's our answer, ladies and gentlemen. Paul will ignore what's even written in his flawed English translation in order to perpetuate his man made doctrine. Honestly, who does that remind you of? Yep, I agree. Paul's the spitting image of his father.”
Can you see, Keith does NOT believe in the Bible !
He tries his best to discredit the WORD of GOD the Bible.
Also he said, “The Revelation unto Y'shua the Messiah, which Yah gave him to show his bond servants, that which is necessary, in a short period of time, to appear in history, in order, made known by his angel, unto his bond servant, John.”
Can you see, the Bible doesn't say that kind of nonsense.
I have a few Bibles in front of me, and in NOT ONE of those Bibles says that kind of nonsense.
But he insist that I should read the BIBLE.
Furthermore Keith said, “Paul, It's God that is speaking in verse 8 and Y'shua speaking in 18 and 19. You want Jesus to be God so much that you are willing to ignore the rest of the chapter, to make your point.”
God AND Y’shua ?
Well, that says it all. Doesn’t it ?
Not one of those infidels can give me a reasonable answer to my question.
That amazes me.
Not even Brenda is willing to give me a simple answer to my question, WHO is that speaking in this passage ?
(Rev. 1:8+17-18) “I am the Alpha and the Omega says the LORD GOD, who is and who was and who is to come, the ALMIGHTY. I am the first and the last, and the living One; and I was dead, and behold, I am alive forevermore,”
She always said, “have you ignored this part of Revelation ch. 1 vs.4-6:-”
Did I ignored that ? NO !
She ignored my question.
All false Brethren hate when the Lord Jesus Christ calls Himself “the Lord God the Almighty”.
For this reason they gnashed their teeth at Him and wanted to kill Him.
And what do you think they would do and say to His Ambassador ?
Is a servant greater than His Master ?
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